DVD Collectors Online

Quote from: Critter on December 17, 2009, 06:18:49 AM

QuoteA quick fix, obviously.

I can only dream of such a thing.

How come you're struggling getting online?

:yahoo:Happy, happy, joy, joy, my 360 was returned to me today

CoD:MW2 goodness here, we come.

Happy, happy, joy, joy?!?

Is it Ren and Stimpy time?

HELP!!!

I tried to go online on both my 360 and PS3 earlier and neither would connect to the internet. I tried the TEst Connection thing and on both consoles I got a message saying that no IP address was available.

How do I sort this out?

As my consoles are nowhere near my modem I use  a Netgear Powerline Wireless Range Extender, (which I've been using for quite some time).

Could the router be out of Ip's? some use limited Ip amounts.

try switching all your consoles off and restarting your router.

Quote from: Emma (snowcat) on January 09, 2010, 10:42:44 AM
Could the router be out of Ip's? some use limited Ip amounts.

try switching all your consoles off and restarting your router.

Tried that.

I ventured onto the Netgear website and the support section is crap.
I looked into the section on the WGXB102 (XE102 and WGX102 bundle), and I found part of the problem.

The "home plug" is not lighting up, it does initially when the XE102 is switched on, but after about 10seconds it goes out again.

I did the obvious bit of triggering the reset thingy.

Anyone got any other ideas?

None.


Maybe your DVDs got jealous of you playing games and ignoring them and sabotaged your machine while you slept! 

I'm not too familiar with the home networking kits, but it's one extra step you could temporarily eliminate. Try connecting the consoles direct to the router and see if they work without you doing anything at all.

By connecting it direct, you may find a root problem (if it doesn't work) or it might even solve it. Each device has a unique MAC address and routers can be clever enough to identify something that has been connected before. It may be 'confused' by the WGXB102 and be blocking it for some reason and when you connect the console direct, the router might go "hey, I remember you! Have this address."

When you reconnect through the WGXB102, the router might say, "ok, it's you again. I gave you this address a minute ago; have it back". With networking it's not always switch it off and on again, it's switch it off and on again in this particular order.

If you think I'm talking crap, there is a security reason. The firewall element of your router uses the MAC address to prevent cloning. Someone could clone your PC and connect through the router unchecked, so the firewall is aware (not Skynet "aware", don't worry!) by locking the IP address to the MAC and not passing it out again. It can sometimes get it's knickers in a twist and you have to hold its hand, one device at a time...

Quote from: Jon on January 09, 2010, 04:23:22 PM
I'm not too familiar with the home networking kits, but it's one extra step you could temporarily eliminate. Try connecting the consoles direct to the router and see if they work without you doing anything at all.

By connecting it direct, you may find a root problem (if it doesn't work) or it might even solve it. Each device has a unique MAC address and routers can be clever enough to identify something that has been connected before. It may be 'confused' by the WGXB102 and be blocking it for some reason and when you connect the console direct, the router might go "hey, I remember you! Have this address."

When you reconnect through the WGXB102, the router might say, "ok, it's you again. I gave you this address a minute ago; have it back". With networking it's not always switch it off and on again, it's switch it off and on again in this particular order.

If you think I'm talking crap, there is a security reason. The firewall element of your router uses the MAC address to prevent cloning. Someone could clone your PC and connect through the router unchecked, so the firewall is aware (not Skynet "aware", don't worry!) by locking the IP address to the MAC and not passing it out again. It can sometimes get it's knickers in a twist and you have to hold its hand, one device at a time...

My router (as the crow flies) is about 20ft away from my 360 & PS3, I would need closer to 40ft of cable to connect them direct, and I don't have a tv that I could easily move and test this plan with.
I would need to actually see whether it's connected directly wouldn't I?

Quote from: lovemunkey187 on January 10, 2010, 02:18:38 PM

Quote from: Jon on January 09, 2010, 04:23:22 PM
I'm not too familiar with the home networking kits, but it's one extra step you could temporarily eliminate. Try connecting the consoles direct to the router and see if they work without you doing anything at all.

By connecting it direct, you may find a root problem (if it doesn't work) or it might even solve it. Each device has a unique MAC address and routers can be clever enough to identify something that has been connected before. It may be 'confused' by the WGXB102 and be blocking it for some reason and when you connect the console direct, the router might go "hey, I remember you! Have this address."

When you reconnect through the WGXB102, the router might say, "ok, it's you again. I gave you this address a minute ago; have it back". With networking it's not always switch it off and on again, it's switch it off and on again in this particular order.

If you think I'm talking crap, there is a security reason. The firewall element of your router uses the MAC address to prevent cloning. Someone could clone your PC and connect through the router unchecked, so the firewall is aware (not Skynet "aware", don't worry!) by locking the IP address to the MAC and not passing it out again. It can sometimes get it's knickers in a twist and you have to hold its hand, one device at a time...

My router (as the crow flies) is about 20ft away from my 360 & PS3, I would need closer to 40ft of cable to connect them direct, and I don't have a tv that I could easily move and test this plan with.
I would need to actually see whether it's connected directly wouldn't I?

Well, you could look at your routers management page now and see what it thinks is connected. Then connect your console directly with power at least and compare the management page. And remember what I said before, it's a long shot, but simply doing that might make it work when you reconnect through the usual way...

Quote from: Jon on January 10, 2010, 02:27:50 PMWell, you could look at your routers management page now and see what it thinks is connected. Then connect your console directly with power at least and compare the management page. And remember what I said before, it's a long shot, but simply doing that might make it work when you reconnect through the usual way...

Okay, remember who you're talking to here 
Where/how would I find the router managment page?

Quote from: lovemunkey187 on January 10, 2010, 02:38:18 PM

Quote from: Jon on January 10, 2010, 02:27:50 PMWell, you could look at your routers management page now and see what it thinks is connected. Then connect your console directly with power at least and compare the management page. And remember what I said before, it's a long shot, but simply doing that might make it work when you reconnect through the usual way...

Okay, remember who you're talking to here 
Where/how would I find the router managment page?

Start, Run, type "cmd". At the prompt type "ipconfig" and press enter. It will show you you're IP address, subnet and gateway. Take a note of the gateway, I'm guessing it will be something like 192.168.0.1.

Close that Window and open your browser. Type the gateway address in that you noted without any of the usual URL stuff. No http this, .com that, just the number.

It will probably ask you for a username and password. If you've never changed it (do you remember setting anything like that when you first had it?) then it will be the default, usually "root" and "password". Google your router model number with "default password" in the search string and I bet it'll come up on the first site.

Once you're in, well, you're on your own!  There will be some sort of option on the left hand side; "Status", "Connected Devices", "Routing Table", something like that. On mine, I would look at Status and there is a button on that page to tell me what it currently detected.

Have fun!

Quote from: Jon on January 10, 2010, 03:11:36 PMHave fun!

erm, thanks.

Only a teaser, but:

Just finished Dragon Age: Origins yesterday as a Human Noble Champion / Reaver Warrior. Good stuff! Can't wait for Awakening in the coming weeks, and I also have to experience the game as a Blood Mage / Arcane Warrior, and I also want to try it as a Rogue / Archer. 

The nice coincidence, is that I finished it just in time for... Final Fantasy XIII!

It's unmistakably Final Fantasy. It's got the feel and looks of a Final Fantasy game. I'm only 1 hour in, but I'm already liking it, and while the whole combat experience has yet to be fully unlocked, they already look quite impressive! Can't wait to get magic and summons going!

The visuals on Final are awesome! Don't know (and don't care actually) how they measure up to the PS3, but they are impressive on the Xbox.