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I don't get it... How stupid is the school system around here!?!

Started by addicted2dvd, December 05, 2011, 02:13:28 PM

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Jimmy

Quote from: Silence_of_Lambs on June 15, 2012, 12:22:57 AM
Sorry, but I really don't get the problem of this case.
You are serious :stars:

Simply said even if that sound quite evident for me

School isn't a place to show murder video... Would you find it normal if the teacher would have shown Animal Farm (not the Orwell book of course) or Sucking Daddy or Child Love or Pre-Teen Sex because the students would have vote to see those films?

Anyway the guy was fired today, rightly so and his union won't defend him... Good riddance

edit : Just want to add and everybody here know that I'm against the "Won't somebody please think of the children!?!" mentallity. But there a big difference between what they can do in their home and what they can do in a house of education...

Jimmy

Michael I would agree with showing that in a school class at :

1. An university psychology class,
2. the police formation institution.

The context do all the difference here. There are absolutly not one single good logical reason to show that to a group of 16 years old in the course of an history class. When I did my education even gruesome war footages was a no-no and it was always the case when my brother was an history teacher at this level. The school job isn't to show that the world is a scary place, it's the parent job (at least it was when I was a kid and it's how my brother and sister educate their children).

Achim

Quote from: Jimmy on June 14, 2012, 06:35:28 AM
Quote from: Achim on June 14, 2012, 06:26:11 AM
If the description of the video in the article is correct
Do you mean the one linked in the Guardian article?

[spoiler]"A graphic 10-minute film apparently posted online by Magnotta showed a man stabbing a naked victim with an ice-pick as well as performing sexual acts and mutilating the corpse while the song True Faith by New Order played."[/spoiler]
Yes, that was the one I meant.

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Quote from: Achim on June 14, 2012, 06:26:11 AM
as one of the parents I would sue the teacher!
Won't happen... we aren't a suing happy country here.
What I meant was I would sue in order to get him expelled. Apparently that has happened already... That has nothing to do with being a sue-happy place. I am German, we certainly aren't quite that sue-happy either.

Jimmy

Quote from: Achim on June 15, 2012, 07:10:32 AM
I am German, we certainly aren't quite that sue-happy either.
I didn't mean Germany per se. I just tought that maybe you did think that we are like our southern neighbor and wanted to let you know that people rarely sue each other here.

The justice really doesn't like to see its time waste on futile lawsuit and they make sure to award very little money when one is allowed. Of course serious lawsuits are permited but usually our social net take care of those so no real need to congest the judicial system.