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Historical accuracy - Fixing the script.

Started by Eric, July 30, 2011, 04:35:14 PM

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Eric

Quote from: Dragonfire on July 31, 2011, 11:15:06 PM

[spoiler]I forgot about the King arresting him for that.
Just remembered something else.... The real Robin was taking something back to England..the crown or Richard's sword..something very important.  The French were trying to get it.  Crowe's character came across the real Robin and was talked into returning the item to England..and then going to see his father - the real Robin's father.  The real Robin and the men with him had been attacked by the French.[/spoiler]


[spoiler]That's true, the thought had never occured to me but you're right, it's not even Robin Loxley that we follow throughout the movie.

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Dragonfire

Quote from: Eric on July 31, 2011, 11:45:41 PM

[spoiler]That's true, the thought had never occured to me but you're right, it's not even Robin Loxley that we follow throughout the movie.

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[spoiler]The fact that he wasn't even really Robin Loxley is what I found to be the oddest about the movie.  Setting how he becomes an outlaw is fine.  It was also weird when he went into that final battle with that hammer looking weapon instead of using his bow and arrows as much.[/spoiler]

Achim

Quote from: Dragonfire on August 01, 2011, 08:09:45 AM
Quote from: Eric on July 31, 2011, 11:45:41 PM

[spoiler]That's true, the thought had never occured to me but you're right, it's not even Robin Loxley that we follow throughout the movie.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]The fact that he wasn't even really Robin Loxley is what I found to be the oddest about the movie.  Setting how he becomes an outlaw is fine.  It was also weird when he went into that final battle with that hammer looking weapon instead of using his bow and arrows as much.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]But then why is the film called Robin Hood. (I haven't seen it, but since I don't intend to Iopened the spoilers...)[/spoiler]

Dragonfire

[spoiler]I believe they called it a retelling or revision of the Robin Hood story.  Crowe's character does basically take over the identity of Loxley.[/spoiler]

Achim


Eric

Quote from: Dragonfire on August 02, 2011, 07:20:45 AM
[spoiler]I believe they called it a retelling or revision of the Robin Hood story.  Crowe's character does basically take over the identity of Loxley.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]And that leads to the real question............................WHY ?

Why come up with that stupid story about some guy posing as Robin Hood ? 

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Dragonfire

Quote from: Eric on August 02, 2011, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: Dragonfire on August 02, 2011, 07:20:45 AM
[spoiler]I believe they called it a retelling or revision of the Robin Hood story.  Crowe's character does basically take over the identity of Loxley.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]And that leads to the real question............................WHY ?

Why come up with that stupid story about some guy posing as Robin Hood ? 

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[spoiler]I don't know.  That is a very good question and I wondered that too...why change that bit of the story.  Wanting to show something different before he becomes an outlaw..fine.  Have King Richard be killed.  Fine.  But an imposter Robin...I never did figure that out.[/spoiler]

Achim

Quote from: Dragonfire on August 03, 2011, 09:04:27 AM
Quote from: Eric on August 02, 2011, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: Dragonfire on August 02, 2011, 07:20:45 AM
[spoiler]I believe they called it a retelling or revision of the Robin Hood story.  Crowe's character does basically take over the identity of Loxley.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]And that leads to the real question............................WHY ?

Why come up with that stupid story about some guy posing as Robin Hood ?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I don't know.  That is a very good question and I wondered that too...why change that bit of the story.  Wanting to show something different before he becomes an outlaw..fine.  Have King Richard be killed.  Fine.  But an imposter Robin...I never did figure that out.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I would have to rewatch the documentary on the The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) Blu-ray tobe certain, but I think they basically said the identity of Robin Hood was never totally verified. The Wikipedia page goes as far as saying, that it is possible that Robin Hood is entirely fictional.  So, I think that guy pretending to be Loxley and then going around as Robin Hood seems plausible to me.[/spoiler]

Eric

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Quote from: Achim on August 03, 2011, 11:29:34 AM
[spoiler]I would have to rewatch the documentary on the The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) Blu-ray tobe certain, but I think they basically said the identity of Robin Hood was never totally verified. The Wikipedia page goes as far as saying, that it is possible that Robin Hood is entirely fictional.  So, I think that guy pretending to be Loxley and then going around as Robin Hood seems plausible to me.[/spoiler]



Ok, I'm probably not doing myself a favor by showing my complete lack of culture but........... :o     Robin Hood is supposed to have really existed ?  I always thought it was a story  :bag:


Eric

Here's another very important question regarding historical accuracy.

Pride and Prejudice:  Did British women of the time all really wore those dresses that made them look like potato bags ?

Najemikon

Robin Hood like Arthur is a legend, so all we know about him is based on word of mouth or more accurately songs, from down the centuries. In truth there is likely a man or perhaps an amalgamation of several from which the tales were based, but he may have even just been a fantasy hero even then.

Regards the potato bag women...  :hysterical: I assume you mean those corsets?



Yes, they're real. Apparently they were so tight the maids tied them with brute force while the lady hung on for dear life! I believe they constricted them so much they couldn't breathe properly, hence the tendency for high class ladies to faint frequently at a slight shock. Long term they could get respiratory problems.

I thought corsets would have been just as normal in the New World though?

Eric

Not corsets Jon (which they did have on this side of the pond btw), I'm talking about this.  All the women in Pride and Prejudice wear them.............and it does make them look like potato bags  :tomato:


Najemikon

Oh yes! I know what you mean now. Yes, I've seen pictures. They're genuine. Don't know what they're called though. :laugh:

Eric

It must have been some very British fashion because I don't remember seeing dresses like that in any movie or book.

Eric

It occured to me that those dresses look pretty much like night gowns so I did a quick research and it turns out that they are actually called gowns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gown