Topic: TRON: Legacy

[Dr. Hasslein]

Alright there is a difference, but like Sophie I too don't exactly have interest or respect for either. In my opinion in terms if cinema it's of the lowest standard.

[NickCalder15]

Mmm.....you make it sound interesting    

I'm still yet to see it. I was gonna see it until the reviews came in. Then I read some of them and was immediately turned off. Then some of my friends start praising it.....gah I dunno what to think anymore!

I might see it when it comes out on blu-ray. Avatar was hyped to this massive 3-D spectacular (and was that) but I still enjoy it on blu-ray. I'm sure Tron is appealing enough for me to watch it in HD at home. At least then I don't have to deal with collapsed ceilings at my cinema like the one today 

[DJ Doena]

In my opinion in terms if cinema it's of the lowest standard.

It's all a matter of perception I think. Please let's not bash each other just because we have a lot of members here who watch films outside the narrow bandwidth that is "hollywood mainstream" (aside from Jimmy, take a look at our fans of the korean and indian movies).

Just like with books and art there's all kind of way to express yourself.

My stance has always been: If you don't care for it, just ignore it. Makes life much more easier. Which is also the reason why - until now - I didn't even bother to look into a thread called "TRON: Legacy".


So please argue about all kinds of movies all you want, but don't insult people just because they watch a different kind of movie than you do.

[Achim]

My stance has always been: If you don't care for it, just ignore it.

[Dragonfire]

My stance has always been: If you don't care for it, just ignore it.

:thumbsup

Alright there is a difference, but like Sophie I too don't exactly have interest or respect for either. In my opinion in terms if cinema it's of the lowest standard.

Are you saying you consider one of them in the lowest type, or both?
And what makes it the lowest form of cinema?  The nudity and sex scenes?

I've seen some really good movies that had nudity or sex scenes in them...should those movies be dismissed just because of that?

Sorry...I wasn't going to say anything about all this..but I decided I was going to.  Not trying to derail the thread or stir up anything..but since it came up...

[Dr. Hasslein]

For me it's both, I just think overall the quality is poor.

I too have seen some really good movies containing sex and nudity, Auto Focus is a good example. Have you seen that?

[Dragonfire]

No I haven't seen that one.

[Critter]

Maybe you can help me out with this, I always did wonder what the difference between porn and adult cinema is. I always thought it was just the same thing.

Easy you got it in the name
Adult cinema wich is the genre of film I watch and review are film with a story where the sex isn't a necessity to the enjoyment, simply said it's a film who rest a film without the harcore parts. Those films were made between 1970 and 1985 with big budget, real actors (from theatre, television, publicity, broadway, ...), talented director and professional crew team working on regular movies.

Pornography is made on video with no professional actors where the sex is the only important thing. Most of them are boring, not enjoyable, made on a formula, don't have a real story, fill with lookalike performers, not really well made technically and to be direct nothing more than a masturbation tool for guys. Not the kind of thing I enjoy and review.

I know we should probably let this thread die already but I just have one more quick question for Jimmy re his explanation of porn v adult cinema. Purely out of curiosity. Is adult cinema where the actors are having real sex on screen instead of just acting? For example, if there is a film that has a lot of sex scenes but the actors are just acting then could it still be considered adult cinema, or is it only when the actors actually have sex on screen?

[Dr. Hasslein]

If you were a fan of Bob Crane from Hogan's Heroes you might want to check it out. It's a very good biopic and quite graphic.

[Dr. Hasslein]

Maybe you can help me out with this, I always did wonder what the difference between porn and adult cinema is. I always thought it was just the same thing.

Easy you got it in the name
Adult cinema wich is the genre of film I watch and review are film with a story where the sex isn't a necessity to the enjoyment, simply said it's a film who rest a film without the harcore parts. Those films were made between 1970 and 1985 with big budget, real actors (from theatre, television, publicity, broadway, ...), talented director and professional crew team working on regular movies.

Pornography is made on video with no professional actors where the sex is the only important thing. Most of them are boring, not enjoyable, made on a formula, don't have a real story, fill with lookalike performers, not really well made technically and to be direct nothing more than a masturbation tool for guys. Not the kind of thing I enjoy and review.

I know we should probably let this thread die already but I just have one more quick question for Jimmy re his explanation of porn v adult cinema. Purely out of curiosity. Is adult cinema where the actors are having real sex on screen instead of just acting? For example, if there is a film that has a lot of sex scenes but the actors are just acting then could it still be considered adult cinema, or is it only when the actors actually have sex on screen?

That's a really good question, I'm curious to know that myself.

[Achim]

Yes, adult cinema usually means that the sex scenes are real. It is different to porn as that the film in it's entirety has an actual plot; it just so happens that the sex scenes are explicit.

I actually own one myself. It's a Swedish film called Thriller. While there is only a single sex scene in this one (I guess most adult cinema films will have several ones), it is explicit (no imagination needed). In this particular case there is an R-rated cut of the film avaiable as well, which has the scenes edited accordingly.

Those kind of films films are mainly from the 70s, when such films were still shown in cinemas. If I understand it correctly, such films are practically no longer made.

[Dr. Hasslein]

Would you class the movie Shortbus as adult cinema or art-house? The sex scenes in that are all real but given the plot and and style I'm would say more art house. 

[Achim]

Would you class the movie Shortbus as adult cinema or art-house? The sex scenes in that are all real but given the plot and and style I'm would say more art house. 

Since you see the lines blurred for this example, you will find the lines are just as blurred for other films as well

I have heard about Shortbus but haven't seen it myself, so wouldn't want t give final judgment whether it's adult film.

[Najemikon]

Would you class the movie Shortbus as adult cinema or art-house? The sex scenes in that are all real but given the plot and and style I'm would say more art house. 

Ah, now this is where it gets interesting. I haven't seen it either, but why couldn't an Adult Film be considered Arthouse?

[Dr. Hasslein]

I don't know, I haven't seen enough of the genre to make that distinction. This is becoming quite an educational thread isn't it.