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Title: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 19, 2010, 06:31:05 AM
I went to see Toy Story 3 today.  I'll just say right away that this movie is absolutely amazing.   :thumbup: all the way.  It is just as good as the previous movies.  This movie is a definite must see.

Ok...now to get to some specifics..though I am not sharing spoilers.

First, the new short before the movie, Day & Night, is amazing.  It seems more simple than the other shorts Pixar has done, but I think it is the most creative and clever of the shorts.  It is also very entertaining.

I think most people who have seen a trailer or preview for the movie know that the movie is set just days before Andy is leaving for college.  The toys, who haven't been played with in a long time, are worried about their futures.  They are facing being packed away in the attic or thrown out.  Something happens, and the toys end up at Sunnyside, a day care center.  The toys are thrilled at the prospect of being played with again, but things quickly turn into a nightmare since they are in the toddler room.  The toys start planning an escape.

The movie starts off with a bit of an adventure that is tied to Andy playing with the toys when he is younger.  Some home video footage is shown, and after a few minutes, Andy is getting ready to go to college.  I think setting the movie in that time is good and it ties into themes that came up in the first movies - toys worry about being forgotten, replaced, or thrown out and they want to be played with.  Some people may not like that the story deals with those things again, but I think it is perfect.  That keeps the movie true to the characters and the first two movies.  Those things are the core ideas of the first movies and it would have been wrong if they had been abandoned just to try to make the story completely new.  There are new elements introduced in the movie and a few surprises.  I was completely shocked by one major development because I just didn't expect that to happen.  It does make sense and fit for the story.  There is resolution to the movie.  During the first several minutes of the credits, additional scenes play that add to the story and are very entertaining.  They are definitely worth staying to watch.

Much like previous Pixar movies, this one has a lot of heart and emotion as well as some touching moments.  Pixar has once again made animated characters have more heart than most live action characters.  By doing that, the audience comes to care about the characters and what happens to them in addition to liking them.  Pixar does this better than anyone.  There are a few things that happen that are slightly upsetting - even for me - and a few things that could be a bit scary for younger children.  The movie does get very emotional, especially later.  Anyone who gets emotional in movies - and who was brought to tears by Jessie's song in the second movie - should probably have a tissue or two handy.  It is incredibly moving, sweet, and beautiful.  There is also a decent amount of humor in the movie as well.  It is really funny when Buzz ends up in what I've decided to call Spanish delusion mode.  He is talking Spanish and thinks he's a real space ranger again.  Ken also adds humor with how he is obsessed with clothes.  He does seem to be living in his own little dream world.

The animation is gorgeous and detailed, which I expect as standard for Pixar.  Andy's room has some changes to it since Andy is older, but it is clearly the same room from the second movie.  There are all sorts of details in his room - including a few references to other Pixar movies.  The scenes set outside look amazing.  There are new locations at the daycare that are incredibly detailed as well.  The characters still look the same, though there are a few changes at one point.  I was really impressed with the look of Barbie's hair.  It doesn't look perfect and smooth like it does on a new doll...it looks more like the hair on a Barbie that has been played with.  There are all sorts of details to the Dream House - though it looks nothing like the one I still have packed away somewhere.  The home movie footage that is shown at the beginning of the movie is made to look very realistic.  The picture is a bit jerky and grainy with static.  I did see the movie in 3D.  The effect is more subtle overall.

The returning characters are much like they were in the previous movies.  The main characters are Andy's toys, though there are less of them now.  They are all conflicted to some degree over their loyalty to Andy and their desire to be played with again.  Woody is probably struggling with that the most.  He even gets guilty when he admits he had fun playing for the first time in years at one point.

There are several new toy characters, though some of them don't do much.  Ken and Lotso, a pinkish strawberry scented bear who basically rules the toy at the daycare.  He seems nice and welcoming at first, but he rules with an iron paw and his darker side comes out.  He is a really good character and a good addition to the movie.  Ken is in close with Lotso, though he doesn't have much authority.  Ken is also obsessed with fashion, having a huge room full of outfits in the Dream House.  He changes outfits more than Barbie.  Stretch is a purple, glittery stretchy octopus.  The character is seen in several scenes without doing that much.  Big Baby is a doll that is basically Lotso's second in command.  Big Baby only says a few words once or twice, but there is something slightly creepy about how the doll looks.

Buttercup is a cute but male unicorn.  Dolly is a little rag doll.  Trixie is a dinosaur who is good with computers.  Mr. Pricklepants is a hedgehog who wears leiderhosen - I have no clue how to spell that - speaks with a British accent and believes that he is a classically trained actor.  I like him.  He is just so different and entertaining.

Once again, there aren't many human characters.  Andy, his sister Molly and their mom are the main ones shown.  The same person that did the voice for Andy in the first two movies did the voice again for this one.  Various children are shown at the daycare, though none of them are really focused on.  Bonnie, a little girl with a wild imagination, is the only one that really stands out.  A few of the workers at the daycare are shown and a few other adults turn up in a couple of other scenes and that is it for human characters.

Pixar has done what is very nearly impossible..they have made a third movie in a series that is just as good as the previous movies.  For many movie series that have a strong second movie - which doesn't happen that often - the third movies have gone to crap more often than not.  Pixar has avoided that fate with this movie.  It is absolutely wonderful and a must see movie for anyone who liked the first movies.  The animation is wonderful and the story is strong.  The care that Pixar puts into making their movies shines through. 

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I did get a review posted on Epinions.

Toy Story 3 (http://www.epinions.com/review/Toy_Story_3/content_515194982020)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 19, 2010, 09:19:31 AM
I hate it when films take so long to open in Australia! Especially a film I am so excited for, I don't remember the last time I was this excited for a film. Thanks for not putting spoilers in the review Marie, I am now looking forward to it even more if that is possible.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 19, 2010, 09:06:05 PM
I don't get why some movies take so long to get to other countries while others open worldwide on the same day.

I just read something..Toy Story 3 made 41 million on Friday.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/19/box-office-toy-story-jonah-hex/ (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/06/19/box-office-toy-story-jonah-hex/)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Jimmy on June 19, 2010, 10:46:09 PM
It isn't just Australia... I know I've import The Descent and Mother of tears from England before they were shown on a screen in North America. I could have done the same with Wolf Creek almost 6 months before it was shown in the cinema of my hometown (I'm glad I didn't). This is just another good thing with the dvd since we don't depend of some studio policy to tell us what we will watch and when.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 19, 2010, 10:52:28 PM
I remember reading about some movies taking months to get to England too.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 20, 2010, 02:18:13 AM
Jimmy I have had the same problem with films taking up to 6 or 7 months to show in Australia after they have opened in America. Realisticaly it doesn't make sense from the studios point of view. If fims aren't released in the cinema in some countries until after they are already out on DVD in others then a lot of people just turn to piracy and download high qaulity copies of the film after having to wait so long. I'm glad Toy Story 3 is just an extra week though.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 20, 2010, 02:46:28 AM
A week isn't too bad.  Though it would still annoy me for movies I was anxious to see.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 20, 2010, 06:04:25 AM
Germany used to have delays of up to 6 months on almost every movie. I believe it has gotten much, much better and most stuff comes out with no or only little delay now. In Taiwan it's also quick on most stuff, there is only the odd one out which gets released month later (e.g., Daybreakers was released the same week it came out on DVD in the US :stars:).


I watched Toy Story 3 yesterday and was amazed just how great the film was; given that it was part 3 of a franchise. The 3D, just like was Up, was entirely unobtrusive, just adding dimension to the overall film. I did not notice any gimmick shots at all. While the basic story is the same yet again (toys get lost/separated, need to travel) the abundance of new characters and locations make it fun all over again. It goes way beyond what I had expected from the trailer.

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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 20, 2010, 06:16:49 AM
Seriously, do not even THINK about clicking on this spoiler if you haven't seen the movie and want to - this means you Sophie. ;)

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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Jimmy on June 20, 2010, 06:22:10 AM
If fims aren't released in the cinema in some countries until after they are already out on DVD in others then a lot of people just turn to piracy and download high qaulity copies of the film after having to wait so long.
Most real film fans will import them as I do. I don't have a lot of respect for people who download commercially available movie, but everyone here know this already...
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 20, 2010, 06:29:28 AM
This is an interesting read.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Meet-The-Only-Two-People-Who-Hate-Toy-Story-3-19118.html
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 20, 2010, 06:36:26 AM
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 20, 2010, 06:41:46 AM
That is an interesting article. 
There are some people posting on Epinions who I think do crap like that...try to be as negative as possible for a popular movie...one did it for the last Harry Potter book too.  After saying she hated 6, she still went out and got 7 at midnight...and had the review posted like 8 hours later.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 20, 2010, 08:29:29 AM
Just read the review at kotaku.com. The only negative aspect they found was this and I thought I share the funny description:

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Myself, I am fairly neutral towards Newman and therefore hardly recognized his songs during the movie at all.
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 20, 2010, 08:51:43 AM
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Oh my...that is some definite hatred toward Newman.  He isn't my favorite, but I don't hate him.  And he did write good songs for the previous movies.  If I remember right, he also wrote When She Loved Me ..the one from Jessie's scene in the second movie.

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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 20, 2010, 09:15:39 AM
I don't remember ever seeing more spoilers in a thread, spoilers which I am finding very difficult not to click. Just one more week Sophie, you can do it.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 20, 2010, 09:17:11 AM
Yes you can.  And it will be so worth to see the movie before reading them.  :)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 20, 2010, 12:12:05 PM
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Sorry Sophie, I hope you can watch it soon and join our discussion here. I am sure Jon will chime in too once he had a chance to see it.


the spill.com review. Pretty spoiler free, but better watch it after the film. just to be safe.



To sum up the ratings:
2x Full Price
2x Better Than Sex
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 20, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
I watched the first Toy Story tonight with my Mum and sister in preperation. The only thing is that Toy Story 3 actually comes out here on June 24th, but I have tickets to go to the opening day of the Tim Burton Exhibition in Melbourne on the same day. I probably won't end up seeing Toy Story 3 until the day after. That extra days seems huge when I have been waiting so long but I'm sure the Burton exhibition will keep me quite occupied in the mean time ;)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Kathy on June 20, 2010, 04:13:10 PM
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 20, 2010, 04:30:23 PM
Just read the review at kotaku.com. The only negative aspect they found was this and I thought I share the funny description:

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Randy Newman: Some people love Randy Newman. They find his music charming and quirky; his voice warm and cuddly. Others find his music unintentionally goofy and think his voice sounds like someone singing while trying to keep from throwing up at the same time. I am firmly in the latter camp. See for yourself! Try to simulate how your throat constricts when you're about to lose your lunch. Now sing. Oh my god it's Randy Newman! I enjoy disliking his music so much that this is nearly a positive.

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I'm in the camp that can't stand him. He's been basically taking the same music for over 30 years, and just changing the lyrics. Everytime he gets nominated for an Oscar, I want to retch.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 21, 2010, 06:36:28 AM
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Sorry Sophie, I hope you can watch it soon and join our discussion here. I am sure Jon will chime in too once he had a chance to see it.


the spill.com review. Pretty spoiler free, but better watch it after the film. just to be safe.



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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 23, 2010, 03:12:18 AM
Just printed my vouchers for my free tickets for this, I can't wait to see it.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 23, 2010, 05:22:52 AM
I hope you enjoy it :)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 25, 2010, 01:19:59 PM
I just got back from Toy Story 3. It may be some time before you see a review from me, I'm not quite sure how I will tackle it. I don't believe that I am a good enough writer to adequately put in words how that movie made me feel.


But for now: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 25, 2010, 09:49:01 PM
I'm glad you saw it and liked it. :)

And now you can go read all the spoilers.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 27, 2010, 03:13:52 AM
I'm starting to feel sorry for Dreamworks, they are completly owned by Pixar every time, no matter what they do. They must be starting to feel at a loss for what they can do. Dreamworks best films are still probably only equal to Pixars worst.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 27, 2010, 03:33:59 AM
Dreamworks is nowhere near Pixar on any level.  They did it to themselves though...rushing to get movies out faster.  They've been doing at least 1 animated movie a year since Shrek I think.  There have already been 2 out this year and I think a third is coming out in November.  Pixar did it the right way...focusing on one movie at a time while they got established, and then brining on more staff so they could have several projects going at once..and now they do 1 a year.

I do hope you write more about Toy Story 3...I'm really wondering what you thought of different things.  :) 
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 27, 2010, 03:48:05 AM
I will write more about it, sorry I am taking so long, I'm really still trying to wrap my head around how fantastic it was. It really hit home for me, I think I will be seeing it a second time soon (maybe today) so I might be able to write more clearly about it then.

But I will tell you one thing.
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 27, 2010, 04:07:17 AM
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The same moment get to all of us :laugh:


I watched Toy Story yesterday and found great to see all those reference they picked up in the third film. For example the opening of the third film, which is showing what it looks like in Andy's/the toy's minds when they play, is basically the same in the first one :o, albeit there we see Andy just play with the inanimate toys; the actions are pretty much the same though. Also many other small things got recognized by me this time; I am not sure I ever noticed that Sid owned a Binford toolbox before :laugh:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 27, 2010, 04:21:11 AM
I will write more about it, sorry I am taking so long, I'm really still trying to wrap my head around how fantastic it was. It really hit home for me, I think I will be seeing it a second time soon (maybe today) so I might be able to write more clearly about it then.

But I will tell you one thing.
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You don't have to be sorry..and I wasn't trying to...pester.  I'm just really interested in hearing your thoughts on the movie.

If you have read the spoilers from before, you'll know that moment hit me hard too.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 27, 2010, 04:29:46 AM
Okay so I am most likley going to the 4:30 session this afternoon. Which worries me a lot becuase 4:30 on a Sunday afternoon usually means kids and lots of them. I can only hope that I will at least get lucky and have parents who will keep them under control.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 27, 2010, 04:30:19 AM
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The same moment get to all of us :laugh:


I watched Toy Story yesterday and found great to see all those reference they picked up in the third film. For example the opening of the third film, which is showing what it looks like in Andy's/the toy's minds when they play, is basically the same in the first one :o, albeit there we see Andy just play with the inanimate toys; the actions are pretty much the same though. Also many other small things got recognized by me this time; I am not sure I ever noticed that Sid owned a Binford toolbox before :laugh:

Sid has a Binford toolbox??  How did I miss that??
Ohhh..that reminds me.  I found a story about all the little things hidden in Toy Story 3 referencing other Pixar movies.  Evidently Sid is in it..he's a garbage man.  He's supposed to be wearing the same black t-shirt with the white skull, but the site didn't have a picture of him in the movie yet.

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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 27, 2010, 04:31:47 AM
Okay so I am most likley going to the 4:30 session this afternoon. Which worries me a lot becuase 4:30 on a Sunday afternoon usually means kids and lots of them. I can only hope that I will at least get lucky and have parents who will keep them under control.

I went to the first showing when I went.  There were a lot of kids in there...but really most of them were well behaved.  No running up and down the aisles or anything.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 27, 2010, 04:37:28 AM
Ohhh..that reminds me.  I found a story about all the little things hidden in Toy Story 3 referencing other Pixar movies.  Evidently Sid is in it..he's a garbage man.  He's supposed to be wearing the same black t-shirt with the white skull, but the site didn't have a picture of him in the movie yet.

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Can you find the story again? I'd love to read it too. (I have a book pointing out all references, some might say thefts :laugh:, in Kill Bill Vol. 1. After seeing it just yesterday I might rewatch soon and read along with the book.)

As for Sid, my first guess would have been he's the crazy one that goes by Andy's house. Or is that actually the same one you referred to in the spoiler...?
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 27, 2010, 04:39:37 AM
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 27, 2010, 04:43:17 AM
Ohhh..that reminds me.  I found a story about all the little things hidden in Toy Story 3 referencing other Pixar movies.  Evidently Sid is in it..he's a garbage man.  He's supposed to be wearing the same black t-shirt with the white skull, but the site didn't have a picture of him in the movie yet.

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Can you find the story again? I'd love to read it too. (I have a book pointing out all references, some might say thefts :laugh:, in Kill Bill Vol. 1. After seeing it just yesterday I might rewatch soon and read along with the book.)

As for Sid, my first guess would have been he's the crazy one that goes by Andy's house. Or is that actually the same one you referred to in the spoiler...?

I don't know if he's the one that goes by Andy's house or not.  Hmmm....  I can't remember.

Here's the link. There are lots of pictures. :)

Toy Story 3 Easter Eggs (http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/18/toy-story-3-easter-eggs/)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 27, 2010, 05:43:20 AM
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That would be the one going by Andy's house.

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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 27, 2010, 06:01:49 AM
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That would be the one going by Andy's house.

I don't know if he's the one that goes by Andy's house or not.  Hmmm....  I can't remember.
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Thanks for the link. Very interesting.

Ahhh...good point about Sid.  I didn't think of that.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 27, 2010, 11:12:44 AM
Just got back from second viewing.


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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 28, 2010, 08:09:16 AM
Were you surrounded by kids?

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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 28, 2010, 08:25:29 AM
I was in a huge cinema so the kids weren't too bad, the crowd was all spread out. There was one child right behind me who spoke loudly quite a bit (he didn't whipser, just spoke normally which really stood out in the cinema). Everytime he did though his father did tell him to quiten down, so it didn't bother me as much since I knew the father was at least trying to stop it.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 28, 2010, 08:51:21 AM
That's good.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 28, 2010, 04:24:50 PM
Going to see this today :thumbup:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 28, 2010, 04:27:12 PM
Can't wait for your review Antares!

And yes I know I haven't even posted mine yet, but I will soon. I will write it tommorow.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 28, 2010, 09:23:44 PM
Goody...more reviews for Toy Story 3 coming. :)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 28, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
I liked it better than the first two films.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Najemikon on June 28, 2010, 09:55:48 PM
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Really? Damn. How the buggery bollocks do Pixar manage to keep re-inventing themselves? All power to them... :thumbup:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 28, 2010, 09:59:01 PM
This story just seemed much more rounded. It had a little bit of everything in it, comedy, pathos and satire. I loved the Cool Hand Luke reference, it was priceless.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 28, 2010, 10:01:42 PM
Is that all you're going to say about it Anteras?  And when are you going to see it Jon?  Get thee to the theater.  Immediately if not sooner. :D

You won't regret it. 
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 28, 2010, 10:03:31 PM
Is that all you're going to say about it Anteras?  And when are you going to see it Jon?  Get thee to the theater.  Immediately if not sooner. :D

You won't regret it. 

OMG, I just got home, give me a little time.  ;)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 28, 2010, 10:10:33 PM
I was only asking. 
Take your time...you can have 10 minutes. ;)

But really...I wasn't trying to ..badger you or anything.  I just wondered.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 28, 2010, 10:14:06 PM
I was only asking. 
Take your time...you can have 10 minutes. ;)

But really...I wasn't trying to ..badger you or anything.  I just wondered.

What sucks is I'm in the middle of one of my routine writer's block periods at the moment. I get this every so often, I just can't put two coherent sentences together.

Then, all of a sudden, it will be like a breached dam, and I write 4 or 5 in a couple of days.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 28, 2010, 10:21:06 PM
I've had that sometimes when trying to write reviews for Epinions.  Some just take me a lot longer to write about even when I've liked the movie.  Others go much faster.  And sometimes, I just can't seem to get started for a while.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 29, 2010, 12:16:15 AM
I'm glad you enjoyed it Antares. I also liked it more than the previous two, and I loved both of them which prove show much I enjoyed this offering.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 29, 2010, 12:31:04 AM
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Really? Damn. How the buggery bollocks do Pixar manage to keep re-inventing themselves? All power to them... :thumbup:

I once read a quote in an article that went like this: "No one in Hollywood knows anything, but Pixar know everything". It made me laugh but it's also a bit true. How many other studios have had every single one of their films be not only a box office but a critical hit as well? It must really build the pressure up on them.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 29, 2010, 12:54:03 AM
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Really? Damn. How the buggery bollocks do Pixar manage to keep re-inventing themselves? All power to them... :thumbup:

I once read a quote in an article that went like this: "No one in Hollywood knows anything, but Pixar know everything". It made me laugh but it's also a bit true. How many other studios have had every single one of their films be not only a box office but a critical hit as well? It must really build the pressure up on them.

I was saying to my wife after the film, that Pixar has surpassed artistically, everything Disney has done since its creation back in the 20's. I really can't think of anything by them that even comes close to the output of Pixar in the 15 years..
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Najemikon on June 29, 2010, 01:03:22 AM
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Really? Damn. How the buggery bollocks do Pixar manage to keep re-inventing themselves? All power to them... :thumbup:

I once read a quote in an article that went like this: "No one in Hollywood knows anything, but Pixar know everything". It made me laugh but it's also a bit true. How many other studios have had every single one of their films be not only a box office but a critical hit as well? It must really build the pressure up on them.

I was saying to my wife after the film, that Pixar has surpassed artistically, everything Disney has done since its creation back in the 20's. I really can't think of anything by them that even comes close to the output of Pixar in the 15 years..

Not sure. It's hard to put things into context. Can you imagine seeing Snow White for the first time when no-one thought a "cartoon" could be a feature? It must have been magical. They've seriously lost their way several times and I haven't been remotely interested in The Lion King or anything since. Except maybe the new one, The Princess Frog, as they seemed to have rallied themselves.

In one of the reviews I saw, they mentioned something I think might be true. That Disney still know how to do a fairytale better than anyone.

But then, Pixar haven't tried one yet, have they? ;)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Kathy on June 29, 2010, 01:39:25 AM
I'm afraid I have to disagree with the comments about Disney. It is important to remember that the house of Pixar is built on the foundation of Disney. Many of the the people that work at Pixar apprenticed at Disney and credit much of what they do to the Nine Old Men of Disney.

Or, as John Lasseter puts it: "For many of us at Pixar, it was the magic of Disney that influenced us to pursue our dreams of becoming animators, artists, storytellers and filmmakers," said Lasseter in the release. "For 20 years we have created our films in the manner inspired by Walt Disney and the great Disney animators - great stories and characters in an environment made richer by technical advances. It is exciting to continue in this tradition with Disney, the studio that started it all."
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 29, 2010, 02:02:08 AM
In one of the reviews I saw, they mentioned something I think might be true. That Disney still know how to do a fairytale better than anyone.

But then, Pixar haven't tried one yet, have they? ;)

I read that Pixar's next non sequel, Brave will be somewhat following the Disney Princess trend. I even heard that the princess in it will become one of the Disney princess merchendising group. I'm not sure how I feel about that, even though Disney bought out Pixar I personally still see them as two different studios, the idea of the characters mixing in that way just doesn't sit well with me.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 29, 2010, 04:54:31 AM
Lasseter is the head of all animation at Disney now...and I think that is why their movies are getting better.  Bolt was really good..and that was the first made after Lasseter was in charge. 

Lasseter and the others at Pixar have said how their love of Disney animation is what got them to follow these careers.  And they still really respect that history and feel that there is still a place for traditional hand drawn animation.  In The Pixar Story, it is briefly touched on how Eisner shut that down before he got booted, and the guys at Pixar talked about how horrible they felt about that. 
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 29, 2010, 05:03:55 AM
I guess it comes down to my preference in my childhood for Warner Bros. While my sisters and I saw all of the Disney stuff , and we liked it, it never was able to dislodge what Looney Tunes was for me.

But my point was that Pixar have been getting better with each successive feature that they release. Sure they started at Disney, but Disney became a money sucking whore in the late 80's and 90's, I know, I worked at a hotel on their property for 3 years back in the early 90's. I didn't work for them, but I saw the transformation first hand when Eisner was the CEO.

Their films became too laden with songs and it was obvious that they were losing their creative touch when it came to the stories.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 29, 2010, 05:05:06 AM
Oh, by the way, what did everyone think of the Tangled trailer?

To me, it looked awful.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 29, 2010, 05:10:35 AM
I saw the trailer for Tangled, MegaMind and Despicible Me and I think all three looked awful. I was so hoping that I would see The Guardians of Gahoole trailer but it didn't show  :(

Not all of the early Pixar staff worked at Disney, but they were all long-term fans of the company. I think that when Lasseter originally worked at Disney he didn't enjoy it becuase he felt suffocated. I remember him trying to do things his way but they wouldn't allow it. No wonder he feels so much more freedom with Pixar. In the end it's very ironic that he ended up back at Disney.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 29, 2010, 05:27:35 AM
I thought Tangled looked like it could be ok. Not up to the caliber of Beauty and the Beast, but still ok.  It looks entertaining to me anyway.

Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 29, 2010, 05:32:01 AM
I actually didn't mind the visual look of Tangled, I thought the backgrounds looked beautiful and the character design was interesting, I just didn't like the look of what was happening. I mean since when can she actually control her hair in a way that she can beat people up with it? And that whole joke with "The smoulder" felt very cheap and Dreamworks-like to me, I didn't find anything in that trailer funny. But then again, I ended up enjoying Bolt more than I thought I would so you never know.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Antares on June 29, 2010, 05:34:02 AM
felt very cheap and Dreamworks-like to me,

That was my sentiments exactly.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 29, 2010, 06:17:27 AM
Tangled didn't have me impressed either. Just as you say, more of the DreamWorks fare :shrug:


@Jon
What are you waiting for? Ticket prices going down?
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 29, 2010, 06:19:18 AM
I second that notion, you are seeing it soon right Jon? ....  :voodoo:

I'm just kidding, you take all the time you need...only take it quickly and see it this week  ;D
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 29, 2010, 06:22:56 AM
Yes Jon....we're waiting....not so patiently anymore...so hurry up and see it already.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Najemikon on June 29, 2010, 11:55:09 AM
Hey, if one of you guys wants to buy me an airplane ticket, cool! Toy Story 3 doesn't get released in the UK until the 18th July.  ;)

It was the 23rd June, but they've pushed it back because they recognise how high demand will be. I'm guessing, let the school term end.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on June 29, 2010, 12:40:34 PM
 :-[

Well that explains it haha, sorry we were all trying to hurry you along, I thought it had already been released in the UK.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on June 29, 2010, 12:42:46 PM
Oops, sorry about that. :bag: Hadn't noticed that none of the participants in the discussion were from the UK.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on June 29, 2010, 10:09:21 PM
Hey, if one of you guys wants to buy me an airplane ticket, cool! Toy Story 3 doesn't get released in the UK until the 18th July.  ;)

It was the 23rd June, but they've pushed it back because they recognise how high demand will be. I'm guessing, let the school term end.

When did the release date get moved?  I swear I heard in a story a week ago that the movie was opening last Friday in England.

Well...I suppose since it hasn't opened there yet, we'll accept that.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: snowcat on June 29, 2010, 10:25:12 PM
It opens at the end of July because as Jon said its because its optimum time for tickets, school will be out so they will hit a good audience, maximum amount of money possible.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on July 01, 2010, 03:38:24 PM
Just got back from seeing this for the third time with my Mum. We went at a 9:10pm session time and no one in the theatre was under 18, perfect. I loved it just as much as my first two viewings and my Mum also loved it. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on July 01, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
I actually don't dare to watch it again so soon :fingerchew: :bag:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on July 01, 2010, 03:46:33 PM
Most people don't, but I have always been a huge culprit of repeat viewing in cinemas, usually close together too. I can see the same film up to 3 times in the space of one week and still not get sick of it (if it's a good film). I wouldn't dare to any more than that though. I understand most people couldn't do this as it's easy to get sick of a film if you watch it too much. But I find the time between cinema release and DVD release is a perfect break time to get ready to watch it again.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on July 01, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
Umm, no, I meant I am not sure I am already prepared to get so emotionally drained again :bag:

I have seen few films in the cinema twice, and this most certainly fills the bill quite o.k. I am just worried about the last 15 minutes :laugh:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on July 01, 2010, 09:37:22 PM
I don't have a problem seeing some movies more than once in the theater..especially when they are this good.  But like you, I'm sure I'm ready for that ending again.
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on July 02, 2010, 03:24:25 AM
Ah Achim, I see what you mean.
And to be honest that's one of the reasons why I love seeing it so many times.
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on July 02, 2010, 03:27:13 AM
Ah Achim, I see what you mean.
And to be honest that's one of the reasons why I love seeing it so many times.
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I understand what you are saying...and in a way it makes sense.  I do like that Pixar creates movies that are emotional...I'm just not sure I'm ready for that again.
It is still difficult for me watch the part about Jessie's past in the second movie because of this.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on July 02, 2010, 03:28:45 AM
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Well, while I love the feeling to see that cinema can do this to me, it was a bit much on this one. I'd rather be properly scared by a good horror film (last time that happened was during The Descent; the claustrophic elements were the strongest though).
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on July 02, 2010, 03:29:44 AM
I can understand that too, I dunno, like I said I'm probably strange, I get a weird thrill out of films making me overly emotional so I don't mind viewing those scenes over and over, even if they are close together.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on July 02, 2010, 03:35:56 AM
I am certainly looking forward to the Blu-ray though. Maybe the viewing it on the small screen will lessen the impact. :laugh:
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on July 02, 2010, 03:54:37 AM
I doubt it will for me.  That bit in Up with Carl and Ellie gets me every time.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on July 02, 2010, 03:57:28 AM
Haha it gets me everytime too, I'm a sucker for crying in films though.
*Lion King Spoiler*
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on July 02, 2010, 04:00:36 AM
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Critter on July 02, 2010, 04:09:07 AM
I can understand that.
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on July 02, 2010, 04:24:12 AM
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on February 05, 2011, 06:52:42 AM
Now I really wonder what it is with this movie... :headscratch:

I rewatched this yesterday and did the same uncontrollable sobbing I did the first time I saw it, at the exact same scenes (obviously, I guess). BUT, what really shocked me was today, when I watched the special features (excellent stuff yet again, Pixar are awesome). I even started to get emotional when they showed the particular scenes in the background or even talked about them with only pictures on screen. :slaphead:

Toy Story 3 for your consideration!


Sorry for digging up this old thread, but I felt the urge to share this.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on February 06, 2011, 08:26:21 PM
I understand.  Just thinking about those scenes gets me.

It really is a wonderful movie.

No need to be sorry. :)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Najemikon on February 06, 2011, 08:36:08 PM
Achim, did you hear the segment on the podcast where Mayo could hardly read out an email from someone relating his thoughts on Toy Story 3? He said later he was digging into his palms so he didn't lose it. I they also compared it to Winnie the Pooh which apparently has a killer ending that is guaranteed to reduce any adult to a blubbering wreck...
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on February 07, 2011, 07:48:38 AM
Yes, I remember that segment well. Kermode wa particularly troubled by the Winnie the Pooh bit.
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(I haven't missed any of Mayo's and Kermode's shows for the past two years...)

Yesterday I was watching the Audio Commentary with PiP on disc 2; very worth listening to, by the way. Same thing happened :laugh: This must be the most emotional film I have seen in my life :thumbsup: It will be interesting to see if the A aren't can get over the fact it's animated (although there is strong competition to begin with...)
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on February 09, 2011, 05:26:19 AM
Achim, did you hear the segment on the podcast where Mayo could hardly read out an email from someone relating his thoughts on Toy Story 3? He said later he was digging into his palms so he didn't lose it. I they also compared it to Winnie the Pooh which apparently has a killer ending that is guaranteed to reduce any adult to a blubbering wreck...

Ack...why did you have to say that about Winnie the Pooh??
Oh well..I'll just take my tissues with me again.  I hadn't heard any references to the ending before...but now I have an idea of what might happen.  If it is that...well...that would do it.  It already makes me sad thinking about that being a possibility.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on February 09, 2011, 05:33:26 AM
Yes, I remember that segment well. Kermode wa particularly troubled by the Winnie the Pooh bit.
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Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Najemikon on February 09, 2011, 08:18:30 AM
Are you talking about the film? I have no idea about how that will end, but the comments were specifically about the book. It may end in the film the same way, but don't be surprised if it doesn't.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Dragonfire on February 09, 2011, 06:37:04 PM
Ahh..ok.  I thought you meant they already knew how the new movie was going to end.
Title: Re: Toy Story 3
Post by: Achim on February 10, 2011, 05:16:29 AM
No, Mayo and Kermode were very clearly referencing the book, sorry if that was cinfusing before.

Since there have been many Winnie the Pooh films in the past, I doubt they'll follow the book to the ending...


BTW, Kermode did point out, that I found the ending to be stronger for grown-ups (just like Toy Story3), as they would have a point of reference, as opposed to kids.