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Title: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 11, 2008, 03:16:48 PM
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Superman Marathon
It has been a while... so I think it is time for me to do another Superman Marathon. This time I think I will do it a little differently then I have in the past. This time I plan to do it like I did my recent Batman Marathon where I watch each movie (live action as well as animated)... but in between each movie I will do about 4 chapters of the two Superman serials that I have. So here is my Super-Marathon...

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Superman
Soaring even higher in a state-of-the-art digital transfer from restored elements and with dynamically remixed digital audio, the Academy Award®-winning adventure also now includes eight minutes integrated into the film by director Richard Donner. Enjoy more footage of the Krypton Council, a glimpse of stars of prior 'Superman' incarnations, more of Jor-El underscoring his son's purpose on Earth and an extended sequence inside Lex Luthor's gauntlet of doom. Christopher Reeve (Superman/Clark Kent), Marlon Brando (Jor-El), Gene Hackman (Luthor) and Margot Kidder (Lois Lane) give indelible performances that fuel the film's aura of legend. Looks like a swell night for flying. Why not come along?

My Thoughts:
This movie... with Christopher Reeve in the starring role... was how I grew up knowing Superman to be. At the time I related was more used to seeing him in the role more so then George Reeves. I believe this came from a time that I did not like to watch anything that was in Black and White.... yes... I was one of those people at one time. But I have sense learned there is a lot of great entertainment out there in Black and white... and now have all the George Reeves Superman episodes... including the early Black and White ones. But I think... to me at least... when I think Superman... I still picture Christopher Reeve.

My favorite scene in this movie... one that makes me laugh even to this day... has to be the scene when Superman is seen for the very first time. Especially when he flies up the side of the building to catch Lois Lane... saying "Don't Worry Miss, I got you."... and she comes back with... "You got me... Who's got you!!!"... I don't know what it is about it... but I love that line.

Note to Jimmy: This is a recycled review... I already have this review for Superman on the site. No need to add it to the list again.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: DJ Doena on September 11, 2008, 03:46:25 PM
I've recently watched Superman I (and if I told you the reason I chose to watch it, you would have me commited to a mental institution) and I had a slight problem with that movie.

Up until Clark becomes Superman it's a great movie and well told. But then it becomes to comic-y (Is it weird to say about a comic movie that it is too comic-y?). The way Lex Luthor and his gang behaves, the way Clark behaves --> it's so childish. It doesn't remotely feel like it could be real.

Maybe I got used to the more realistic approach of more recent comic picturizations. For example, if you accept that people could do the things they do, then shows like Smallville and Heroes and movies like X-Men and Batman Begins / Dark Knight have a more serious touch than the Reeve Superman movies.

For example, if Tom Welling's Clark would ever wear a costume, I would expect that it would hide his face and that he would probably wear a voice-distorter.

This was also the most stupid thing about Superman Returns. Clark and Superman leave and return at exactly the same day and not even Lois does the simplest of math.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Achim on September 11, 2008, 04:37:31 PM
I've recently watched Superman I (and if I told you the reason I chose to watch it, you would have me commited to a mental institution) and I had a slight problem with that movie.
You just know that after saying that we just have to ask: Why did you watch Superman?


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This was also the most stupid thing about Superman Returns. Clark and Superman leave and return at exactly the same day and not even Lois does the simplest of math.
Not sure what gave me the feeling, but somehow I was of the impression that Lois knew...
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: DJ Doena on September 11, 2008, 04:48:35 PM
You just know that after saying that we just have to ask

Of course I knew, but I still won't tell. because then you would  :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I can say that much: It had nothing to with me watching the movie because I wanted to watch the movie - and I was the only person who watched the movie without someone forcing me to.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Achim on September 11, 2008, 04:58:53 PM
Of course I knew, but I still won't tell. because then you would  :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

I can say that much: It had nothing to with me watching the movie because I wanted to watch the movie - and I was the only person who watched the movie without someone forcing me to.
Come on, this is among DVD watching friends here. You can tell us. You know you want too...
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Tom on September 11, 2008, 06:18:44 PM
For example, if Tom Welling's Clark would ever wear a costume, I would expect that it would hide his face and that he would probably wear a voice-distorter.

I hope not!!
Superman is one of the superheroes, where you have to be willing to suspend your disbelieve regarding his dual identity. Superman was always hiding behind one pair of glasses and it should stay like this!
I can understand if someone cannot do this, but then Superman is just not the superhero for you. There are countless other superheroes who have masks you can choose from  :tease:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 11, 2008, 07:56:58 PM
I have to agree with Tom on that.

I got side-tracked from my marathon this morning... such a nice day I couldn't stand staying inside so I been out doing some yard work. I plan on watching the next item this evening though. :)
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Kathy on September 11, 2008, 08:28:55 PM
You just know that after saying that we just have to ask

Of course I knew, but I still won't tell. because then you would  :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:


Ahhh but I want to go :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: so tell me please!
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 11, 2008, 08:52:03 PM
Superman The Movie does deviate from the comic mythology a bit. Exaggerating Lex, making Clark a complete idiot (although some of the comics have apparently used this approach for a period of time), but all that aside, I think Reeve was perfect. Couldn't be better as Superman. And the film as a whole I believe is possibly the greatest pure cinema entertainment there is. It's set on a recognisably real Earth. A lot of fantasy feels like it's in an alternative dimension.

As a superhero film it balances origin with action better than any other, possibly because it feels like it revels in the simplest aspects of it's hero. It's proud to be what it is, rather than a stepping stone for a sequel.

Superman is at his best in the simplest form, because he's the most pure. Smallville has always messed with the story far too much for my liking; Lois and Clark was much better! :P
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Achim on September 12, 2008, 06:16:19 AM
It's proud to be what it is, rather than a stepping stone for a sequel.
That's probably because they filmed the sequel back to back. So the real sequel (meaning follow-up to make more money) is Superman III; and we all know how that turned out :yucky:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 12, 2008, 09:45:27 AM
Very true! :hysterical:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 12, 2008, 12:14:20 PM
LOL... I can see now you all won't be agreeing with my Superman 3 review! (once I get that far)  :P
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 12, 2008, 11:03:10 PM
LOL... I can see now you all won't be agreeing with my Superman 3 review! (once I get that far)  :P

I'm not surprised. After all, you like Batman & Robin, and Superman III is like Citizen Kane compared to that! :laugh: :tease:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: RossRoy on September 12, 2008, 11:14:59 PM
Superman III is like Citizen Kane compared to that! :laugh: :tease:

You mean I'll be bored to death?  :bag:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 12, 2008, 11:21:55 PM
 :o :voodoo: :training: :suicide: :stars:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 12, 2008, 11:29:51 PM
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Superman (Chapters 1-4)
Superman, Lois, and Jimmy combat the evil Spider Lady. Lots of cliffhanger excitement while the Spider Lady and her gang use Kryptonite against Superman in an effort to gain a relativity Reducer Ray.

My Thoughts:
So far I am really enjoying this serial... I thought I may be put off by Superman turning into a cartoon when he flies.... but I didn't mind one bit... matter of fact... I really enjoyed the way they did it. I don't know... it is like it added a little something special to the serial. At least in my opinion. Much like the TV Series from the '50s and from what I understand some of the comics before that... the names of the Kents were not Martha and Jonathan... but that was easy to get past since it was only seen in the first chapter. I like how they managed Superman's X-Ray vision in this... basically looks like they superimposed a lighter scene over top what he was supposed to be looking through... so it worked well in my opinion... though I do think it was odd that it is always in a rectangle... like you are looking at a movie being projected onto a wall... but I imagine they did the best they could... and as I said... it works well.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: RossRoy on September 12, 2008, 11:30:37 PM
:o :voodoo: :training: :suicide: :stars:

Yeah I know... My view of Citizen Kane is not a popular one.. But what can I do? It's not like I didn't try! I watched it 3 times so far, read about it and all the innovations in storytelling and cinematography techniques and what not... I still can't get involved in the story and get bored each and every time.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: RossRoy on September 12, 2008, 11:33:57 PM
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Haha! I don't know why, but from that small picture, I pictured Bruce Campbell in the title role!  :laugh:


You're making it interesting. I've been meaning to expand my Superman knowledge through past serials and animated series. You've gotten my interested with this serials collection. I'll to take another look at those!  ;D
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 12, 2008, 11:55:25 PM
 :laugh: Bruce Campbell as Superman!?!  No I just can't see it... though you are right... Kirk Alyn does look a little like Bruce Campbell in that picture. But here he is closer up... not as much close up...

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What I really like about this set is it has both the Superman serials in one set. I really enjoyed them both!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 13, 2008, 12:00:00 AM
:o :voodoo: :training: :suicide: :stars:

Yeah I know... My view of Citizen Kane is not a popular one.. But what can I do? It's not like I didn't try! I watched it 3 times so far, read about it and all the innovations in storytelling and cinematography techniques and what not... I still can't get involved in the story and get bored each and every time.

That's fine. No problem. Move along, nothing to see here. I was just reacting to your cheap shot, right below the belt! :weep: ;) It's often considered one of cinema highest achievements, something neither Batman & Robin nor Superman III will ever be accused of! And you threw me a "bored". Bored!! Maybe I should have said The Dark Knight instead... ;D

P.S.: That HAS to be Campbell! It's a conspiracy! Pete's second picture is obviously faked to hide the fact it was Campbell... :laugh:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 12:03:21 AM
For what it is worth... I still want to see Citizen Kane. It is one of those classics I never got to see before.

And nope... still not Brice Campbell!  :P
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: MEJHarrison on September 13, 2008, 12:31:36 AM
For what it is worth... I still want to see Citizen Kane. It is one of those classics I never got to see before.

You do know that it's a movie and not a TV show, don't you? It's not even a horror movie. :tease:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 01:01:24 AM
 :laugh: yes I do know that... even know it is in Black and white!  :P believe me... I do have other tastes then horror and TV Series.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: RossRoy on September 13, 2008, 01:04:54 AM
:laugh: yes I do know that... even know it is in Black and white!  :P believe me... I do have other tastes then horror and TV Series.  :thumbup:

You do?  :suicide:




 :devil:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 01:26:42 AM
this forum is just full of comedians!  :P

I give you this thread as proof... as well as the Batman thread and the Sandra Bullock Marathon... as well as several others I have had in the past. :P
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 13, 2008, 02:31:48 AM
For what it is worth... I still want to see Citizen Kane. It is one of those classics I never got to see before.

You do know that it's a movie and not a TV show, don't you? It's not even a horror movie. :tease:

Ex-squeeze moi! The opening shots of Citizen Kane (post newsreel style footage), is pure, classic, gothic horror style. So there's an excuse for Pete to get right into it! :P

Ok, it's about 12 seconds, but you know, it's there...
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 09:56:30 AM
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Superman II
This continuation of the adventures of the Man of Steel (Christopher Reeve) takes up where the original left off, showing spectacular new tricks to surpass it! "I thought the original 'Superman' was terrific entertainment," Roger Ebert wrote, "and so I was a little startled to discover that I liked 'Superman II' even more." Three fugitive super-powered Kryptonian do-badders (Terence Stamp, Sarah Douglas and Jack O'Halloran) plan to enslave the Earth – just when Superman decides to show a more romantic side to Lois Lane (Margot Kidder). The timing is off for the son of Jor-El, but it's ideal for a special-effects fan's dream come true as Metropolis comes under siege. Gene Hackman (as Lex Luthor) also returns from the first film and with a top supporting cast, witty Richard Lester direction and visuals that astound and delight, this comic book-come-to-life has become an enduring all-family wow!

My Thoughts:
Another one I really enjoyed. Christopher Reeve and Margot Kidder do a good job reprising their roles. I also liked the 3 Kryptonian criminals. I thought it was a great idea to make Superman face someone (or a small group as it is) as strong as he is. Even though I understand why they had to do it for the storyline... I never cared much for when Superman gave up his powers to be with Lois. The movie was almost boring in those scenes. But of course it really picked up afterwards... and I really enjoyed the fight between Superman and the Kryptonian criminals. Over-all it is a great movie.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 13, 2008, 12:59:27 PM
Pete, have you got, and will you be including, the Richard Donner's alternative cut of Superman II? I haven't watched it yet (I plan to have my own Superman marathon soon), but it sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 01:16:30 PM
I wish I could Jon.. but I haven't gotten the chance to get myself a copy yet.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Tom on September 13, 2008, 01:19:09 PM
The Richard Donner cut is really worth to watch it. I even like it a lot better than the Lester Cut. It fits much better with Superman I. And you get some additional Marlon Brando scenes, which close some plot holes.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 13, 2008, 01:23:18 PM
The Richard Donner cut is really worth to watch it. I even like it a lot better than the Lester Cut. It fits much better with Superman I. And you get some additional Marlon Brando scenes, which close some plot holes.

The only thing that has put me off is I heard the quality is a bit ropey in places? But it sounds more than watch-able from your comments.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Tom on September 13, 2008, 01:25:59 PM
There is only one scene which suffers really poor quality. And that it is because it's scene which is needed, but was never shot. Only for screen tests. I think you probably already know the scene. It's part of the bonus material of the Superman I release. The one where Lois tricks Clark to admit to being Superman.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 01:34:44 PM
I definitely need to get me a copy! I have never seen it before. Was it even available at all before the DVD was released?
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Tom on September 13, 2008, 01:39:17 PM
I definitely need to get me a copy! I have never seen it before. Was it even available at all before the DVD was released?
As far as I know only as fan cuts put together with deleted scenes. Not the official Richard Donner Cut.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 01:44:37 PM
Which explains why I never seen it... Thanks Tom.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: DJ Doena on September 13, 2008, 01:59:24 PM
the german site Schnittberichte (cut reports) shows the different chronology of both versions:

http://schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=4165
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 04:56:30 PM
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Superman (Chapters 5-8)
Superman, Lois, and Jimmy combat the evil Spider Lady. Lots of cliffhanger excitement while the Spider Lady and her gang use Kryptonite against Superman in an effort to gain a relativity Reducer Ray.

My Thoughts:
Four more chapters of the first Superman movie serial.  Just more of the same as the first 4 chapters. I am still enjoying the serial very much. It has been a while since I watched these... so even though I do remember some of what is happening... I don't remember all of it. Unlike some of the movies that I basically know by heart.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 13, 2008, 07:40:12 PM
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Superman III
Meet Gus Gorman (Richard Pryor), a naive computer programming natural. For him a keyboard is a weapon - and 'Superman' faces the microelectronic menace of his life. Christopher Reeve reprises his signature role, deepening his character's human side as 'Clark Kent' sees 'Lana Lang' (Annette O'Toole) at a 'Smallville' High class reunion. And when the 'Man of Steel' becomes his own worst enemy after 'Kryptonite' exposure, Reeve pulls off both roles with dazzling skill. Relive 'Superman III' in all it's heart, heroism and high-flying humor.

My Thoughts:
In this one, they decided to go with a lot of comedy mixed into the story. A lot of people that I know really disliked this mixture. I on the other hand really enjoyed it. I found this new light-hearted look at Superman to be very entertaining. Even with that said... I wouldn't want to see other Superman movies in this way. I think one comedic look at Superman is enough. I really enjoyed Annette O'Toole was good as Lana Lang..... she of course goes on to play Martha Kent in Smallville.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 14, 2008, 08:45:05 PM
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Superman (Chapters 9-12)
Superman, Lois, and Jimmy combat the evil Spider Lady. Lots of cliffhanger excitement while the Spider Lady and her gang use Kryptonite against Superman in an effort to gain a relativity Reducer Ray.

My Thoughts:
Another four chapters of the first serial. Almost done with this one... only 3 more chapters to go.  I just noticed for those that never seen it that I never mentioned that in this serial Lois Lane is played by Noel Neill who also played Lois Lane in most the episodes (Seasons 2-6) of The Adventures of Superman starring George Reeves. I am still enjoying the serial quite a bit. I have noticed they will use the same footage over again in different chapters... especially in places like when he ducks behind some rocks as Clark then pops out as Superman and flies away. But that is ok... it don't really take away from the show.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 14, 2008, 11:55:10 PM
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Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Christopher Reeve not only dons the title hero's cape for the fourth time but also helped develop the movie's provocative theme: nuclear disarmament. To make the world safe for nuclear arms merchants, 'Lex Luthor' (Gene Hackman) creates a new being to challenge the 'Man of Steel': the radiation-charged 'Nuclear Man' (Mark Pillow). The two foes clash in an explosive extravaganza that sees 'Superman' save the Statue of Liberty, plug a volcanic eruption of Mount Etna and rebuild the demolished Great Wall of China. Your quest for excitement is over.

My Thoughts:
This one on the other hand... this is my least favorite of all the Superman shows I ever seen... including movies, TV Series and animation! Even so it is Superman so there is some enjoyment... but not even close to any of the other movies or any of the other incarnations of Superman I have ever seen. I really can't put my finger on it... but this one is lacking a certain something that all the other movies has. I basically got this one in my collection just to complete the series of movies. It is not one I will watch often... but will watch every now and again.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 15, 2008, 01:01:20 AM
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Superman (Chapters 13-15)
Superman, Lois, and Jimmy combat the evil Spider Lady. Lots of cliffhanger excitement while the Spider Lady and her gang use Kryptonite against Superman in an effort to gain a relativity Reducer Ray.

My Thoughts:
This completes the first Superman movie serial.  Over-all I really did enjoy it. Would definitely recommend it to others. There was a couple things in the storyline of this serial that they left open... but that is ok over all most everything was tied in together. I do with it would have went into who the Spider Lady was more then it did... but that is something that wasn't really needed for the story itself.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 15, 2008, 01:27:04 AM

My Thoughts:
This one on the other hand... this is my least favorite of all the Superman shows I ever seen... including movies, TV Series and animation! Even so it is Superman so there is some enjoyment... but not even close to any of the other movies or any of the other incarnations of Superman I have ever seen. I really can't put my finger on it... but this one is lacking a certain something that all the other movies has. I basically got this one in my collection just to complete the series of movies. It is not one I will watch often... but will watch every now and again.

It is dreadful. At least part 3 had the pretty cool sequence of him fighting himself and wrecking monuments! The problem with part 4 is that it is really a protest film. He's fighting someone who is nuclear powered and heavy handed preachy bollocks like that never works because audiences aren't quite that stupid. It adds nothing whatsoever to the mythology because it's too busy warning is of the dangers of destroying ourselves.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Jimmy on September 15, 2008, 01:27:41 AM
This one on the other hand... this is my least favorite of all the Superman shows I ever seen... including movies, TV Series and animation!
You will not get any argument from me with this one, this movie is bad. The Nuclear man is not really impressive and the "nuclear is bad" agenda is nothing new, but without this Christopher Reeves had refuse to come back. The newspaper takeover storyline is weak too (look the bad capitalist  :-\). Why Jon Cryer? Did someone really care about him in 1987 or any other years?

But it's better than the third part  :P
At least this is a Superman movie not a good one at all, but not a Richard Pryor vehicule...  
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: lyonsden5 on September 15, 2008, 02:50:37 PM
Wow, I think we found a movie everyone will agree is no good.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Tom on September 15, 2008, 05:39:35 PM
Wow, I think we found a movie everyone will agree is no good.  :laugh:
I like the scene where Clark, this new lady, Superman and Lois double date  :laugh:
And I like the last line:
Superman to Luthor: "See you in twenty"
And about twenty years later we got Superman Returns starring Superman and Lex Luthor  :laugh:

But agreed, the rest of the movie is bad.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 15, 2008, 06:08:17 PM
Wow!... I don't know what hit me.. but I just wasted most my day... after seeing my daughter off to school (7am) I went back and laid down for a bit.... fell asleep and just now getting up (noon). Oh well... I am sure I will still get Superman Returns in today... maybe even start the second serial.  :P
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: RossRoy on September 15, 2008, 06:14:12 PM
Wow!... I don't know what hit me.. but I just wasted most my day... after seeing my daughter off to school (7am) I went back and laid down for a bit.... fell asleep and just now getting up (noon). Oh well... I am sure I will still get Superman Returns in today... maybe even start the second serial.  :P

 :o

Good thing it happened now. It would've made quite a dent in your allotted time for October's marathon!  :tv:

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 15, 2008, 06:30:14 PM
 :laugh: Tell me about it... and that is after sleeping all night too! 

Actually I am kinda happy that it happened today. Maybe I can stay up for the whole HTF Chat with Warner TV And Animation tonight!  :P
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 15, 2008, 09:05:06 PM
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Superman Returns
'HE'S BACK'. A hero for our millennium. And not a moment too soon, because during the five years (much longer in movie-fan years!) 'Superman' sought his home planet, things changed on his adopted planet. Nations moved on without him. 'Lois Lane' now has a son, a fiancé and a Pulitzer for "Why the World Doesn't Need Superman." And 'Lex Luthor' has a plan that will destroy millions - no, billions - of lives.

Filmmaker Bryan Singer ('X-Men', 'X2') gives the world the Superman it needs, honoring the legend everyone loves while taking it in a powerful new direction. Brandon Routh proves a perfect choice to wear the hero's cape, leading a top cast that includes Kate Bosworth as Lois and Kevin Spacey as Lex. And the thrills - from a sky-grapple with a tumbling jumbo jet to a continent-convulsing showdown - redefine 'Wow'. "I'm always around," Superman tells Lois. You'll be glad he is.


My Thoughts:
This is the first live action movie since Christopher Reeve was no longer able to play the character. My fear going into this is how it would feel seeing someone new in the role after seeing the wonderful job Christopher Reeve did. But I have to admit Brandon Routh did a great job and it felt like he showed the role the respect it deserves. I enjoyed Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor as well. I can't think of anyone that could have done it any better. Then we come to Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane... this is where I was left feeling a bit cheated. I just didn't buy her as Lois Lane. I don't know what it was about her.... but it just didn't feel quite right. As for the story itself... I think they did an outstanding job. While watching this movie I got the feeling while watching that I haven't had since the first couple movies. I think that alone is a great accomplishment. This is one I would definitely recommend... and would love to see more movies come... as long as they don't start replacing the title role with every new movie like they did with the Batman movies.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 15, 2008, 09:23:07 PM
Glad to hear something positive about Superman Returns! Nice review, Pete. I'm in agreement on all points. Some fans have said there wasn't enough spectacle and Singer was too nostalgic to let his hero get into any real battles. Whereas I pretty much disagree (the plane was marvellous!) and enjoyed it because it was nostalgic (right down to the music and the shot composition), he has said he would let rip in the sequel, tentatively called Man of Steel.

A tentative title is all we get though. Somehow all talk of the sequel has just drifted off and sadly taken Routh with it. Last I heard, Warners were thinking of a "reboot", which Incredible Hulk style will mean new actors, new director, new bloody everything and what an absolute f***ing shame. Pardon my French, but situations like this really annoy me. Look what Singer did with X-Men! A cautious, solid first part, followed by one of the best sequels ever. Why not let him do the same here?

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However, in these very Internet fuelled cynical times, I feel in the minority when I say I trust Bryan Singer wholeheartedly and I really hope he can see it through to whatever vision he originally had.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Jimmy on September 15, 2008, 09:36:49 PM
Can't say what I think of this one (I've bought all the Superman movies and Supergirl in 2006), I've tried to watch it three times with always the same result... I fell asleep  :hmmmm:

I've decide to not retry it, if it can't keep me awake three times maybe this is a hint from my subconsious  :laugh:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 15, 2008, 09:42:16 PM
Jon...
I completely agree with you on what you have in the spoiler tag. I forgot to even touch on that in the review. But over-all I was thrilled with the outcome. Don't know what to think about a sequel now though.  :(
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 15, 2008, 09:50:08 PM
Can't say what I think of this one (I've bought all the Superman movies and Supergirl in 2006), I've tried to watch it three times with always the same result... I fell asleep  :hmmmm:

In a coincidence, I've dropped across this article (http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=10170). While I'm not sure about the attack on Fraser, he's hit the nail right on the head! Jimmy's comment is funny considering a line toward the end... :D
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Tom on September 15, 2008, 10:02:34 PM
Boy am I glad that the script Brendan Fraser had read was not made. This doesn't sound the Superman I know at all. World War 3 with different planets  :stars: . Almost as bad as the script Kevin Smith had to write in the 90s.
Superman Returns was perfectly fine like it is. Sad that the chances for a real sequel are so small.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Achim on September 16, 2008, 06:19:22 AM
A tentative title is all we get though. Somehow all talk of the sequel has just drifted off and sadly taken Routh with it. Last I heard, Warners were thinking of a "reboot", which Incredible Hulk style will mean new actors, new director, new bloody everything and what an absolute f***ing shame. Pardon my French, but situations like this really annoy me. Look what Singer did with X-Men! A cautious, solid first part, followed by one of the best sequels ever. Why not let him do the same here?
I heard the same sad news. :( I agree that Singer deserve the chance to do the second one; IMO he has proven to be worthy the material.

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Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Najemikon on September 16, 2008, 09:46:37 AM
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This is going the same way as Hulk, but that was at least near enough to a flop. Warners seem to be worrying about this because it didn't set any records despite being a hit. I know they'd sunk a lot of money on development for about 20 years, but that's not Singer's fault.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 17, 2008, 08:42:52 PM
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Atom Man vs. Superman (Chapters 1-5)
Superman manages to eventually save Lois, Jimmy, Metropolis, and the Earth, from Luthor's schemes involving coin tokens that transport hoodlums, synthetic Kryptonite, ray guns, rockets, and a Directional Cyclotron!

My Thoughts:
So far I am really enjoying this serial. I think I like it even more then the first one. They came up with a couple improvements that I noticed. First on the flying. Superman still turns into a cartoon most the time... but it does show some live-action closeups of him flying too. So that is pretty cool. Then there is the X-Ray Vision. Instead of seeing a rectangle of a lighter image (Think shooting a movie on the wall) they fade the entire wall (scene) out and it is like you are viewing from inside the same room.  I also enjoy the fact that in this serial he is going up against Lex Luthor. In this serial Lex is played by Lyle Talbot. He is the same actor that played Commissioner Gordon in the serial Batman and Robin.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Jimmy on September 17, 2008, 09:11:24 PM
Do you plan to review this one too?

I know she's not Superman, but she's his much more sexy cousin  ;D
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 17, 2008, 09:15:03 PM
LOL.... I wasn't planning on it at least. Let me see if I still feel up to it once I finish off my Superman movie collection.

I just noticed something while putting headshots into dvdp... In the Superman movie serials Jimmy Olsen is played by Tommy Bond. Looking him up on the net... he played Butch on Little Rascals when he was a kid. I thought that was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 17, 2008, 11:52:34 PM
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Superman: Brainiac Attacks
Embittered by Superman's heroic successes and soaring popularity, Lex Luthor forms a dangerous alliance with the powerful computer/villain Brainiac. Using advanced weaponry and a special strain of Kryptonite harvested from the far reaches of outer space, Luthor specifically redesigns Brainiac to defeat the Man of Steel. But when Brainiac betrays Luthor and reveals its sinister plans for world domination, 'Superman' must brave the mysterious 'Phantom Zone' to find the strength to survive this deadly showdown.

Fly with this all-new, feature-length spectacular and experience the action, adventure and excitement that only Superman can bring home!


My Thoughts:
This is a good animated movie... I enjoyed it just as much as the animated series it came from. I must say though... even though I did enjoy every minute of the movie... I did not carre for the look they gave Brainiac After Lex helped him combine with the satellite. I liked the look of him in the beginning of the movie much more. I also liked how they did the Phantom Zone in this movie. Story makes this release well worth it... but unfortunately the dvd itself is lacking.not much for extras what so ever... just a handful of trailers.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 18, 2008, 09:42:21 PM
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Atom Man vs. Superman (Chapters 6-10)
Superman manages to eventually save Lois, Jimmy, Metropolis, and the Earth, from Luthor's schemes involving coin tokens that transport hoodlums, synthetic Kryptonite, ray guns, rockets, and a Directional Cyclotron!

My Thoughts:
Five more chapters of this serial. Still enjoying it very much. This puts me 2/3rds of the way through the serial.  One thing did leave me rolling my eyes a bit on one of the chapters this time around. Something that to me went a little far.They have Superman come crashing through a barn door to save Lois and Jimmy. Instead of tearing the whole door down... or completely smashing the door to bits... what do they do? The create a hole in the door in the shape of Superman. That just felt way too cartoon-ish in my opinion.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 18, 2008, 11:16:22 PM
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Superman: Doomsday
When Lexcorp accidentally unearths the intergalactic serial killer Doomsday, Superman battles the creature head-on in the fight of his life...literally. The world collectively mourns its fallen hero; humanity realizes it will never feel truly safe again. Superman's enemies rejoice - all but Lex Luthor, who grieves the loss in his own demented manner, setting off a chilling chain of events that even he couldn't have foreseen.

Inspired by the best-selling graphic novel of all time, DC Comics' The Death of Superman, this feature-length animated adventure boasts exciting action sequences that rival anything you've ever seen starring the Man of Steel.™


My Thoughts:
I am a fan of Superman: The Animated Series... and when I first ordered this I was under the impression this movie was off that series... but I was mistaken there. This is just an animated movie... separate from the series. That is not a bad thing... I enjoyed the movie... even as short as it was. I know a lot of fans of the comic books didn't like it because it left so much out and just didn't compare to the comics. There is where I am lucky... as I never read the comics version of this story.  Another thing I heard mentioned was on the talent used... I heard people not satisfied with Anne Heche doing the voice for Lois Lane. Now that I do agree with... her voice... and her attitude just didn't feel right for the character... and felt like it really took away from both the character and over all the movie for me. On the other hand... they had James Marsters (Spike on Buffy) voicing Lex Luthor... which at first felt weird... but it quickly grew on me and just felt right. Adam Baldwin (Jayne on Firefly) voiced Superman/Clark Kent... I never had a problem with that one... it felt right from the start. Over-All I really enjoyed the movie. I just wish it was longer then the very short 78 minutes.

Note to Jimmy: This is a recycled review... I already have this review for Superman: Doomsday on the site. No need to add it to the list again.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on September 19, 2008, 02:41:22 PM
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Atom Man vs. Superman (Chapters 11-15)
Superman manages to eventually save Lois, Jimmy, Metropolis, and the Earth, from Luthor's schemes involving coin tokens that transport hoodlums, synthetic Kryptonite, ray guns, rockets, and a Directional Cyclotron!

My Thoughts:
This is the last five chapters to the second Superman serial. Over-all a good serial that I enjoyed quite a bit. I would say I probably enjoyed this one even more then the first one. I am glad I picked up this collection of movie serials. It is the second time I watched each of them and enjoyed them just as much as the first time. This set comes with a couple of fun extras included... a featurette on the making of the serials and excerpts from the feature length documentary Look, Up in the Sky! The Amazing Story of Superman.

Ok... I think I am about burned out on superheroes now after this one and the Batman marathon I had earlier... so I think it is time for me to go on to something else. So this ends my Superman Marathon.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Jimmy on May 06, 2009, 04:19:56 AM
MOVIE / DVD INFO:

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Title: Supergirl (1984)

Genre: Science Fiction
Director: Jeannot Szwarc
Rating: Unrated
Length: 2h05
Video: Widescreen
Audio: English and French
Subtitles: English, French and Spanish

Stars:
Helen Slater
Faye Dunaway
Maureen Teefy   
Peter Cook
Hart Bochner

Plot:
Strength, flight, invincibility, heat vision, an unswerving sense of justice: they're all family traits. Kara, 'Superman''s cousin, also survived the cataclysm that destroyed their homeworld of 'Krypton'. And when she comes to Earth, she's 'Supergirl'!

Creative forces behind 'Superman The Movie' take another page from DC Comics lore with this fun-and effects-packed adventure about the 'Girl of Steel'. Helen Slater plays the title role, posing as Midvale prep-schooler 'Linda Lee', battling a sorceress (Faye Dunaway) for control of an alien power orb and enjoying an unexpected dating ritual called kissing. Peter O'Toole and Mia Farrow add more starpower to the ultrapowered excitement. All you in Midvale and beyond, have no fear: 'Supergirl' is here!

My Thoughts:
Pete had never reviewed this one and I've decided to do it myself. Evidently it doesn't really fit in neither of my 2 reviews topics so I've decided to place it here.

For me a super hero doesn't need to be completly serious and depressing (that's why I've no intention to watch the recent Batman). OK I want to have a little seriousness, but I want to have some enjoyment out of it. This one was not really a big hit since it cames just after the awfull piece of crap that was (and will always be) Superman 3. This kind of sad since this was the best thing in this franchise after the original (sorry but Superman 2 is bad, at least the theatrical version). I agree the vilain is cartoonish, but common it's Faye Dunaway so who cares (at 43 she was always great to look at). Talking of great to look at, Helen Slater what a great discovery from this movie. She can act and she sure look good (the outfit looks certainly better on her than on Christopher Reeves), too bad that she doesn't had a better career because this movie was a box office failure. Even Maureen Teefy an actress that I like was in this and for one time she doesn't sing (her singing voice is awfull). Peter O'Toole is good too in his little role. For the rest of the cast nothing really impressive and a lot of waste talent.

Maybe it's a little silly film, but it doesn't make a joke of the Superman franchise like all the others after the original. I don't count Superman Return that wasn't a joke but a whining boringfest.

I've watched the international version, I sure will like to watch the director cut but the Anchor Bay dvd is OOP since a long time...

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Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on May 06, 2009, 12:05:00 PM
It has been a while since I watched this one.... I really should watch it again at some time soon. Just won't be this weekend... as I have a marathon planned that this just wouldn't fit in.  :P
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Dragonfire on May 06, 2009, 10:04:17 PM
I'll probably get this one eventually to add to my superhero movie collection if nothing else.  I wasn't impressed when I saw it before, but I'll probably still get it.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Jimmy on May 06, 2009, 10:47:27 PM
Bought all of them in a week or so when they were re-released (Superman 1 to 4, Superman Return and Supergirl). After the original Superman and the director cut of Superman 2, Supergirl is my favourite... What can I say it's a fun movie with a beautifull lead actress :laugh:
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: addicted2dvd on May 06, 2009, 11:19:02 PM
I actually have the limited edition...

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It contains both the International Version and the Director's Cut as well as some decent extras.

It is numbered... I got...
#40,636 out of 50,000 released
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Tom on May 06, 2009, 11:35:59 PM
For those of you with a R2 player and still waiting to buy the Superman movies, amazon.co.uk has currently the Superman - Ultimate Collection (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JJS57M/ref=nosim/dvdtiefprei0c-21) for 26 pounds. It contains 13 discs. This includes all four Reeve movies (including the Donner cut of Superman II) and Superman Returns.
Title: Re: Superman Marathon
Post by: Dragonfire on May 07, 2009, 03:53:24 AM
For those of you with a R2 player and still waiting to buy the Superman movies, amazon.co.uk has currently the Superman - Ultimate Collection (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000JJS57M/ref=nosim/dvdtiefprei0c-21) for 26 pounds. It contains 13 discs. This includes all four Reeve movies (including the Donner cut of Superman II) and Superman Returns.

That is what I have...The Ultimate Collection.