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Started by Dragonfire, July 22, 2012, 07:07:10 AM

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DJ Doena

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Quote from: northbloke on August 01, 2012, 11:54:47 PM
Quote[spoiler]The Bat was incredibly far out at the sea considering the time that was left. It had to accelerate way beyond 500mph to make that distance - rather unlikely considering he barely managed to lift the nuke.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Distance is deceptive at sea. The horizon is on average only 3 miles away, and the safe distance was only 6 miles. I think the Bat could have made that distance easily enough.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]6 mile detonation radius. But that doesn't mean he can just fly out six miles and be done with it. And the 3mile horizon distance is just for people standing on the ground and looking at a flat horizon. Not looking at a nuclear mushroom reaching a hight of 15 miles.

(btw: All of this doesn't even consider the upcoming nuclear fallout later on.[/spoiler]


Quote from: Dragonfire on August 02, 2012, 02:45:57 AM
[spoiler]That's a good point too.  I was pulled into the movie at that point and not concerned about those things.
With that kiss...it really wasn't extensive.  At least I don't remember it being that extensive.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]What kiss?  ???[/spoiler]
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Quote from: DJ Doena on August 02, 2012, 06:06:54 AM
[spoiler](btw: All of this doesn't even consider the upcoming nuclear fallout later on.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I thought it wasn't a straight up nuclear bomb; although, a) I forgot what exactly it was and b) what kind of problems that bomb can cause.[/spoiler]


Quote[spoiler]What kiss?  ???[/spoiler]
[spoiler]When they all meet on the ground, batman had landed, Gordon was there and Cateoman arrived with the batcycle, Catwoman and Batman decided it was a good idea to waste a few precious seconds with a kiss.[/spoiler]

Dragonfire

Quote from: DJ Doena on August 02, 2012, 06:06:54 AM
Quote from: northbloke on August 01, 2012, 11:54:47 PM

Quote from: Dragonfire on August 02, 2012, 02:45:57 AM
[spoiler]That's a good point too.  I was pulled into the movie at that point and not concerned about those things.
With that kiss...it really wasn't extensive.  At least I don't remember it being that extensive.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]What kiss?  ???[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Batman and Catwoman kiss in the street just before he takes off with the device.  [/spoiler]

Dragonfire

Quote from: Achim on August 02, 2012, 07:18:28 AM
Quote from: DJ Doena on August 02, 2012, 06:06:54 AM
[spoiler](btw: All of this doesn't even consider the upcoming nuclear fallout later on.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]I thought it wasn't a straight up nuclear bomb; although, a) I forgot what exactly it was and b) what kind of problems that bomb can cause.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]The device started out as something that would produce energy cheaply..through fusion I think.  Bane found that one scientist who claimed that such a device could be turned into a bomb...that's why they took that guy at the beginning of the movie in the plane.  He was taken to the device in Gotham once Bane took control, and did his modifications and it was turned into a bomb.  I can't remember if they called it nuclear or not now.[/spoiler]

Achim

This is a quote from the first page, where Marie pointed out references from the first movie:
Quote from: Dragonfire on July 27, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
[spoiler]His father shows Bruce the pearls for his mother...before they go to the opera.  She is wearing them when they are shot.  The same pearls that Selina decides she likes and steals.  I'm sure there are more little things like that in all three movies.  [/spoiler]
I watched Batman Begins myself yesterday...
[spoiler]The pearl necklace is (hopefully) not the same. On the one hand, the original is destroyed during the mugging. But even more, the necklace in the safe in part 3 had a homing deice installed...? If I indeed remember that correctly then I would hope that Bruce was given the pearly by the police and had the necklace reassembled, adding the chip so that it could never get lost. It would be creepy if Thomas Wayne had given his wife a necklace with which he would always know where she is...[/spoiler]

It was fun seeing those few (at least I didn't see all that many) things that ultimately carried over to the third film. Some stuff is not even important, it just creates a sense of continuity, whereas witzh other things you wonder if he was planning ahead at the time :laugh:

Dragonfire

Quote from: Achim on August 03, 2012, 06:19:39 AM
This is a quote from the first page, where Marie pointed out references from the first movie:
Quote from: Dragonfire on July 27, 2012, 07:37:14 AM
[spoiler]His father shows Bruce the pearls for his mother...before they go to the opera.  She is wearing them when they are shot.  The same pearls that Selina decides she likes and steals.  I'm sure there are more little things like that in all three movies.  [/spoiler]
I watched Batman Begins myself yesterday...
[spoiler]The pearl necklace is (hopefully) not the same. On the one hand, the original is destroyed during the mugging. But even more, the necklace in the safe in part 3 had a homing deice installed...? If I indeed remember that correctly then I would hope that Bruce was given the pearly by the police and had the necklace reassembled, adding the chip so that it could never get lost. It would be creepy if Thomas Wayne had given his wife a necklace with which he would always know where she is...[/spoiler]

[spoiler]The pearls looks the same..with the individual pearls being different sizes..and the one in the middle of the front is the biggest.  It is unique looking.  All pearls I've seen before have been the same size.  Having the individual pearls be slightly different sizes gives his mother's necklace a more distinctive look.  I'm thinking Bruce got the pearls back.  They were there...they would have been picked up by the police probably.  At some point Bruce had them fixed.  It was the last gift his father gave his mother, so it had importance to him beyond just that they were his mother's.  I can't remember for sure if there was a tracking device in them when Selina took them or not.  If there was, he probably did that so that he could always get them back if they were taken.  At least that is my thoughts on it.  [/spoiler]

QuoteIt was fun seeing those few (at least I didn't see all that many) things that ultimately carried over to the third film. Some stuff is not even important, it just creates a sense of continuity, whereas witzh other things you wonder if he was planning ahead at the time :laugh:

I liked seeing those few things too.  I'm thinking there may be some in Dark Knight too..I haven't watched that one again yet.  You're right, the things mostly aren't that important - the necklace is one of those small things, but it does add to the continuity of the series.  It's impressive that small things like that are carried through the three movies when in other movies bigger details get messed up within the same movie.  With some stuff that came out in this movie, I did wonder if Bruce was planning certain things longer...not exactly the...circumstances but it does seem like he had a few things planned out for a while.

Achim

Quote from: Dragonfire on August 03, 2012, 07:59:50 AM
[spoiler]The pearls looks the same..with the individual pearls being different sizes..and the one in the middle of the front is the biggest.  It is unique looking.  All pearls I've seen before have been the same size.  Having the individual pearls be slightly different sizes gives his mother's necklace a more distinctive look.  I'm thinking Bruce got the pearls back.  They were there...they would have been picked up by the police probably.  At some point Bruce had them fixed.  It was the last gift his father gave his mother, so it had importance to him beyond just that they were his mother's.  I can't remember for sure if there was a tracking device in them when Selina took them or not.  If there was, he probably did that so that he could always get them back if they were taken.  At least that is my thoughts on it.  [/spoiler]
[spoiler]I seem to remember a tracking device. He and Alfred were talking about it, that it wouldn't be a problem to find her. Alfred was concerned she might sell it, which would mean they loose track of her, but Bruce was sure she wanted it for herself.[/spoiler]

QuoteI'm thinking there may be some in Dark Knight too..I haven't watched that one again yet.
I am thinking about seeing it this weekend, then maybe seeing The Dark Knight Rises again shortly...

Dragonfire

Quote from: Achim on August 03, 2012, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: Dragonfire on August 03, 2012, 07:59:50 AM
[spoiler]The pearls looks the same..with the individual pearls being different sizes..and the one in the middle of the front is the biggest.  It is unique looking.  All pearls I've seen before have been the same size.  Having the individual pearls be slightly different sizes gives his mother's necklace a more distinctive look.  I'm thinking Bruce got the pearls back.  They were there...they would have been picked up by the police probably.  At some point Bruce had them fixed.  It was the last gift his father gave his mother, so it had importance to him beyond just that they were his mother's.  I can't remember for sure if there was a tracking device in them when Selina took them or not.  If there was, he probably did that so that he could always get them back if they were taken.  At least that is my thoughts on it.  [/spoiler]
[spoiler]I seem to remember a tracking device. He and Alfred were talking about it, that it wouldn't be a problem to find her. Alfred was concerned she might sell it, which would mean they loose track of her, but Bruce was sure she wanted it for herself.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I remember Bruce and Alfred talking about finding Selina and the necklace..and Bruce saying that she took it for herself because she liked it.  They may have mentioned a tracking device.  I just can't remember for sure now.  I need to see the movie again.  I think it makes sense that Bruce would have had a tracker put on it.[/spoiler]

QuoteI'm thinking there may be some in Dark Knight too..I haven't watched that one again yet.
QuoteI am thinking about seeing it this weekend, then maybe seeing The Dark Knight Rises again shortly...

I definitely want to see Dark Knight Rises again in the theater too.  Maybe I'll manage that next week.