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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2008, 04:51:11 PM »
But then you'd miss the best Star Trek film ever! The one with the whales!  :tease:

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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2008, 05:42:28 PM »
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home



William Shatner ... Admiral / Captain James T. Kirk
Leonard Nimoy ... Captain Spock
DeForest Kelley ... Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy
James Doohan ... Commander Montgomery "Scotty" Scott
George Takei ... Commander Hikaru Sulu
Walter Koenig ... Commander Pavel Chekov
Nichelle Nichols ... Cmdr. Uhura
Jane Wyatt ... Amanda
Catherine Hicks ... Dr. Gillian Taylor
Mark Lenard ... Ambassador Sarek
Robin Curtis ... Lieutenant Saavik
Robert Ellenstein ... Federation Council President
John Schuck ... Klingon Ambassador
Brock Peters ... Admiral Cartwright

After having stolen the Enterprise and having it blown up above Genesis, the crew has to return in the captured klingon Bird of Prey which Dr. McCoy ironically named HMS Bounty. On Earth they have to face charges of mutiny and theft of the Enterprise. But there is anothere traveler on its way to Earth with a message for its inhabitants.

My opinion:
The funniest movie of the series and I enjoyed it very much. This movie is packed with gags that play with the situation that a group of humans and aliens from the 23rd century has to blend in with the population of San Francisco in the year 1986.
What is regrettable is the fact that we haven't learn anything since then. We still hunt whales for "scientifical purposes".
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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2008, 07:02:15 PM »
But then you'd miss the best Star Trek film ever! The one with the whales!  :tease:
I have seen that before and it was indeed very entertaining. Silly in parts, but that's alright; it's Star Trek :bag:

Well, I just want to get one or two and most people say II is the best...

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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2008, 07:33:03 PM »
Yeah, I think II is best as well really and it's pure Trek at least. As Karsten just said though, you can have the most fun with IV I think.

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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2008, 07:49:36 PM »
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier



William Shatner ... Captain James T. Kirk
Leonard Nimoy ... Captain Spock
DeForest Kelley ... Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy
James Doohan ... Capt. Montgomery "Scotty" Scott
Walter Koenig ... Cmdr. Pavel Chekov
Nichelle Nichols ... Cmdr. Uhura
George Takei ... Cmdr. Hikaru Sulu
David Warner ... St. John Talbot
Laurence Luckinbill ... Sybok
Charles Cooper ... Gen. Korrd
Cynthia Gouw ... Caithlin Dar
Todd Bryant ... Capt. Klaa

The new Enterprise is a single constructional defect. Nothing really works. But then something happens on the "Planet of Galactic Peace", Nimbus III. The ambassadors of the Federation, the Romulans and the Klingons get kidnapped and the Enterprise must come to the rescue.

My opinion:
Most Trekkies say it's the worst of all. I can't agree with that. It is indeed far-fetched that Spock suddenly has a half-brother who is on a big emo trip. But other than that? A man who is on the search for God and gets on the wrong track - that's not uncommon. And the movie had a lot of good sentimental moments as well as funny ones to compensate the former ones.
But they have a problem with deck counting. Since when does the number increase when you get higher? And 78 decks? But that was also a problem in Star Trek 8 and 10 (or it will be).
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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2008, 10:37:10 PM »
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country



William Shatner ... Captain James T. Kirk
Leonard Nimoy ... Captain Spock
DeForest Kelley ... Dr. Leonard "Bones" McCoy
James Doohan ... Captain Montgomery "Scotty" Scott
Walter Koenig ... Commander Pavel Chekov
Nichelle Nichols ... Cmdr. Uhura
George Takei ... Captain Hikaru Sulu
Kim Cattrall ... Lieutenant Valeris
Mark Lenard ... Ambassador Sarek
Grace Lee Whitney ... Commander Janice Rand
Brock Peters ... Admiral Cartwright
Leon Russom ... Starfleet Commander in Chief
Kurtwood Smith ... Federation President
Christopher Plummer ... General Chang
Rosanna DeSoto ... Azetbur
David Warner ... Chancellor Gorkon
John Schuck ... Klingon ambassador
Michael Dorn ... Colonel Worf

Three months until Captain Kirk and most of his senior staff go into retirement. Sulu has got his own ship now, the Excelsior. But then the klingon moon Praxis explodes. This polutes the atmosphere of the klingon homeworld Qo'noS (Kronos). The Klingons have no choice but to negotiate a peace treaty with the Federation. But there are forces in motion that want to prevent that this happens.

My opinion:
"There will be no peace as long as Kirk lives" (Star Trek IV). This time one had to fear that they mean it. VI is my favourite movie of the entire Star Trek series. There is a great final battle but that's not the end but is marking a new beginning.
Nicholas Meyer is directing a Star Trek movie for the second time after II and he did again an excellent job. Besides being the director he also worked on the screenplay for II, IV and VI and thus for three of the four best Star Trek movies.
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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2008, 11:13:14 AM »
Star Trek: Generations



Patrick Stewart ... Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Jonathan Frakes ... Commander William T. Riker
Brent Spiner ... Lt. Commander Data
LeVar Burton ... Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge
Michael Dorn ... Lt. / Lt. Commander Worf
Gates McFadden ... Commander / Dr. Beverly Crusher
Marina Sirtis ... Commander Deanna Troi
Malcolm McDowell ... Dr. Tolian Soran
James Doohan ... Capt. Montgomery "Scotty" Scott
Walter Koenig ... Commander Pavel Chekov
William Shatner ... Captain James T. Kirk, retired
Alan Ruck ... Capt. John Harriman
Jacqueline Kim ... Ensign Demora Sulu

2293. Retired Captain Kirk is invited to the ship's christening of the Enterprise-B. But then the ships gets an emergency call from two refugee vessels and the Enterprise comes to aid. But on that mission Kirk dies. 2371. The Enterprise-D under the command of Captain Jean-Luc Picard gets an emergency from the Armagosa observatory. They find only a few survivors but they can't conclude their investigation because the Armagosa sun collapses. And the Enterprise has to prevent that such thing happens again.

My opinion:
I don't know. Personally I don't think it is a good idea to bring these two crews together (i.e. it was only Kirk) with the help of a time distortion element. It felt constructed. And Captain Harriman's incompetence was just a vessel for letting Kirk being the hero for one last time. I also didn't like what was going on aboard the new Enterprise. Picard's reaction to the death of his nephew - it wasn't just like him, somehow it didn't felt right. Additionally I hate Data's emotion chip. The scenes with him were ridiculous and in the movies to come we becomes more and more a figure of fun.
The movie went up from the moment when Picard and Kirk met in the Nexus. But it also set another standard for a TNG movie. Picard fights every enemy with his own bare hands in the great finale and he kills them all - directly or indirectly.
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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2008, 01:36:19 PM »
Star Trek: First Contact



Patrick Stewart ... Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Jonathan Frakes ... Commander William Riker
Brent Spiner ... Lt. Commander Data
LeVar Burton ... Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge
Michael Dorn ... Lt. Commander Worf
Gates McFadden ... Commander / Dr. Beverly Crusher
Marina Sirtis ... Commander Deanna Troi
Alfre Woodard ... Lily Sloane
James Cromwell ... Dr. Zefram Cochrane
Alice Krige ... Borg Queen
Michael Horton ... Lieutenant Daniels
Neal McDonough ... Lieutenant Hawk
Marnie McPhail ... Lieutenant Eiger
Robert Picardo ... Emergency Medical Hologram
Dwight Schultz ... Lieutenant Reginald Endicott Barclay III

The Borg are attacking the Federation and Earth again and the fleet can't stop them. But then Picard finds a way to destroy the Borg Cube. At this moment a Borg Sphere can escape and it opens a tunnel into the past, to destroy the Federation before it was even founded. The Enterprise has no choice but to follow and try to prevent it.

My opinion:
While I Picard's mourning in 7 didn't felt believeable, I had no problem believing his hatred. I also thought it to be a good idea that he got out of it with the help of classic literature which is a known hobby of Picard's. I don't know if it's a coincidence but movies that are based directly on the events of the series (II and 8) use Moby Dick as a basic plotline.
It was also nice to see how image and reality clashes when it comes to Cochrane.
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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2008, 03:41:19 PM »
Star Trek: Insurrection



Patrick Stewart ... Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Jonathan Frakes ... Commander William T. Riker
Brent Spiner ... Lt. Commander Data
LeVar Burton ... Lt. Cmdr. Geordi La Forge
Michael Dorn ... Lt. Cmdr. Worf
Gates McFadden ... Dr. Beverly Crusher
Marina Sirtis ... Commander Deanna Troi
F. Murray Abraham ... Ad'har Ru'afo
Donna Murphy ... Anij
Anthony Zerbe ... Vice-Adm. Dougherty
Gregg Henry ... Gallatin
Daniel Hugh Kelly ... Sojef
Michael Welch ... Artim

During a mission where Data isn't assigned of the Enterprise, he gets damaged and his systems fall back to basic functions. In doing so he discloses a secret Federation base. This base is an observation station to monitor a small group of people who live in a remote and wild part of the galaxy. To prevent Data's destruction the crew of the Enterprise tries to get Data under control again.

My opinion:
I actually like that movie. Spock always said that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. Kirk couldn't agree with that and neither can Picard. I like the question this movie asks. Admittedly the humor was sometimes ... umm, well ... (e.g. Data as lifeboat or the joystick) but other than that I liked it.
Only the ending could have been different but an ending where Rua'fo survives didn't make it through the test screenings.
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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2008, 06:13:53 PM »
Star Trek: Nemesis



Patrick Stewart ... Captain Jean-Luc Picard
Jonathan Frakes ... Commander / Captain William T. Riker
Brent Spiner ... Lt. Commander Data / B-4
LeVar Burton ... Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge
Michael Dorn ... Lt. Commander Worf
Marina Sirtis ... Counselor Deanna Troi-Riker
Gates McFadden ... Dr. Beverly Crusher
Tom Hardy ... Praetor Shinzon
Ron Perlman ... The Reman Viceroy
Shannon Cochran ... Senator Tal'aura
Dina Meyer ... Commander Donatra

The Enterprise is on its way to Betazed, to the wedding of Commander Riker and Counselor Troi. Suddenly they receive a rare positronic signature, a signature that is only emitted by androids like Data. On a lonely planet near the Neutral Zone they find B-4 a prototype of Data's architecture. After that they get invited to Romulus by the new leader of the Romulan Empire. But this new Praetor is a surprise.

My opinion:
This entire movie is bullshit. If you count back, Picard wasn't even Captain of the Enterprise when this clone was produced. And even if, according to the movie it would have taken at least 20 years before Shinzon could have become ready for use. In this time anything could have happend to Picard. But even if: The Romulans are one of the if not even the most paranoid races in this galaxy. And they get  duped by a bunch of Remans (a race we hear of for the first time), they are able to build the greatest battle cruiser of all times and they manage to wipe out the entire romulan senate (that BTW had the size of the editorial staff of a student magazine)? And then this Shinzon accidentally finds another prototype of Dr. Soong's.
I won't even start with the ramming maneuvre or Admiral(!) Janeway.
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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2008, 06:21:15 PM »
This entire movie is bullshit.

 :laugh: I agree!
Even minor things bothered me. For example we see a picture of a young Picard without hair (or was it only in form of his clone? I do not remember, I only have seen this movie once whereas I can (and have) watch the other movies countless times). But in the episode Tapestry we learn, that Picard had still full hair as a cadet.
Also everything in this movie is unoriginal. A twin of Data (what about Lore?). Yet another clone story.
And don't get me started on the moon buggy kind of vehicle (it simply seems ridiculous as we almost never see a vehicle with wheels in the 24th century Star Trek universe).



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Re: Weekend Star Trek Marathon
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2008, 06:35:23 PM »
I know what you mean. I just had to stop ranting somewhere. :D Even with the death of Data they opened a backdoor in form of B-4 - just as they did in II with Spock.
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