Post by: Achim on January 09, 2009, 03:58:15 PM
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles: The Complete First Season Marathon
This starts the "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles: The Complete First Season" marathon.
Our timetable:
Monday Jan. 12 - Sunday Jan. 18:
Disc 1
1. Pilot
2. Gnothi Seauton
3. The Turk
Monday Jan. 19 - Sunday Jan. 25:
Disc 2
4. Heavy Metal
5. Queen's Gambit
6. Dungeons and Dragons
Monday Jan. 26 - Sunday Feb. 1:
Disc 3
7. The Demon Hand
8. Vick's Chip
9. What He Beheld
I hope for numerous comments on each episode. Rating shall be considered optional.
Judgement Day is upon us!!! :tv:
Post by: Tom on January 09, 2009, 04:20:47 PM
Post by: addicted2dvd on January 09, 2009, 04:32:05 PM
Post by: Achim on January 10, 2009, 05:29:17 AM
Corrected. :ok: Apologies for the confusion. :bow:
Post by: DJ Doena on January 10, 2009, 10:12:28 AM
Post by: Tom on January 10, 2009, 10:18:27 AM
Often something like this happens:
Me: So see you next Monday
Other: Ok, on Jan 19th
Me: No, on Jan 12th
Other: Oh, you meant upcoming Monday and not next Monday
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Post by: DJ Doena on January 10, 2009, 11:22:51 AM
Do you know the german Zwiebelfisch (http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/zwiebelfisch/0,1518,379039,00.html)?
Post by: Tom on January 10, 2009, 02:20:09 PM
Do you know the german Zwiebelfisch (http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/zwiebelfisch/0,1518,379039,00.html)?
I did know of it, but I don't read it regularly. But I have read the first "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod".
Post by: Achim on January 10, 2009, 03:53:17 PM
Having said that, speaking and writing English most of the time now, this difference has somewhat washed away (although even there it still requires clarification sometimes) for me and I did indeed mean for the marathon to start on the 12th.
Post by: Achim on January 12, 2009, 03:04:06 PM
As indicated above, I found the story line of the pilot to be rather similar to the first two movies. Nonetheless we are off to a great start! The episode starts with some quick action and then keeps a good speed throughout, only stopping occasionally to take a small breath and explain a few more things; for those few viewers who may not have seen the films and then some. The conclusion comes as a great surprise and consequently creates interest to watch more of the same. I for one am looking forward to the next episodes, hoping they can keep it up.
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Acting was solid. I had a little trouble to believe Thomas Dekker to be 15 years old and thought Lena Headey looked a bit two young. Summer Glau, being used to play weird outsiders, does a good job in her role as Cameron.
Favorite quote (although I am paraphrasing):
"You might want to put those back in the holster." :hysterical:
Post by: addicted2dvd on January 12, 2009, 05:23:46 PM
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 1 Marathon
The mother of all destiny. Her son, the future leader of mankind. Their protector, a Terminator from the future. Together they must take back the future as Sarah Connor (300's Lena Headey) prepares her son to fight the war against machines determined to annihilate the human race. The Clock is ticking. Can they stop Judgement Day?
Disc 1:
The mother of all destiny. Her son, the future leader of mankind. Their protector, a Terminator from the future. Together they must take back the future as Sarah Connor (300's Lena Headey) prepares her son to fight the war against machines determined to annihilate the human race. The Clock is ticking. Can they stop Judgement Day?
Disc 1:
1. Pilot
No one is ever safe, least of all Sarah Connor and her son, John. Tired of running from the machines, Sarah decides to stand and fight.
My Thoughts:
This is a great start to the series. Yes, it is a lot like the first 2 movies. But I think this is a good thing... for anyone that might have never seen the movies (if that is possible). They really went all out for the pilot episode. Lots of great effects and a really enjoyable storyline.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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2. Gnothi Seauton
New future, new identity. Cromartie, the battered but relentless Terminator programmed to kill John Connor, resurfaces.
My Thoughts:
Another good episode... though it is not as good as the pilot episode. There was no real surprises in this episode... it pretty much went in the direction I was expecting throughout the episode. But definitely a good continuation from the pilot episode.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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3. The Turk
He's just a geek with a hobby. But is the computer chess program Andy Goode developed the beginning of the end?
My Thoughts:
I really enjoyed this episode as well. I got a kick out of John and Cameron going to school... only to find that at the entrance there is a metal detector and they have to explain how Cameron keeps setting off the metal detector. This one has another really interesting storyline that was well done.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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Post by: Tom on January 12, 2009, 08:30:41 PM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), Josh Friedman (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: David Nutter
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Owain Yeoman (Cromartie), Sonya Walger (Michelle Dixon), Nick Wechsler (Deputy Ridge), Charlayne Woodard (Terissa Dyson), Dean Winters (Charley Dixon), Aurora Antonio (Wiseass), Chad Brummett (F.B.I. Agent), Aaron Cash (Terminator), Jason Grutter (Police Officer), Gary Houston (Mr. Ferguson), Deborah Martinez (News Anchor), Genia Michaela (Bank Teller), Kenneth Miller (Boy), Brandon Molale (Big Cop), Shawn Prince (Danny Dyson)
An almost perfect introduction to a great series. Nice way to solve the problem, to have the characters hardly older than in the second movie, but having the series set in present time.
Nice to see Nick Wechsler following his father's footsteps :laugh: (he played Kyle Valenti on Roswell, the son of Sheriff Valenti who's played by William Sadler. And now he plays the deputy sheriff here).
For the "Heroes" fans among us: Thomas Dekker played Claire's friend in the first half of season 1, but dropped out of "Heroes" to star here.
I forgot that Summer Glau already said her signature remark "Thank you for explaining" in this pilot before it is revealed that she is a Terminator. Nice :)
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Post by: Achim on January 13, 2009, 09:35:54 AM
An almost perfect introduction to a great series. Nice way to solve the problem, to have the characters hardly older than in the second movie, but having the series set in present time.That problem didn't even quite occur to me :hmmmm: And I must have missed how they solved it too. Can you explain?
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Post by: DJ Doena on January 13, 2009, 10:14:07 AM
An almost perfect introduction to a great series. Nice way to solve the problem, to have the characters hardly older than in the second movie, but having the series set in present time.That problem didn't even quite occur to me :hmmmm: And I must have missed how they solved it too. Can you explain?(click to show/hide)
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Post by: Achim on January 13, 2009, 03:54:25 PM
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But, a new mystery came up for me already (missed something again :bag:). Whose (empty) apartment did they visit to pick up the money? It appeared as if they knew the person, but somehow I must have missed them mentioning the name :-[.
Episode 2 slowed down the pace a bit, trying to deepen the characters a bit, which is just fine at this point. Dekker mostly does a good job to appear like I could be around 15 years old while it became more obvious to me that Headey was playing Sarah a bit different then Linda Hamilton in T2. Glau does her thing. It appears time travel became quite popular in the times of the resistance... Looking forward to episode 3 on either thursday or Friday! :)
"Please remain calm." :laugh:
What becomes a little annoying about the Blu-ray is that, as typical for Warner, the "feature" starts to play immediately, forcing you to keep skipping forward to find the 2nd (or 3rd) episode on the disc; a episode selection menu is missing entirely :-\
Post by: Tom on January 13, 2009, 06:15:38 PM
a episode selection menu is missing entirely :-\
Not even a pop-up menu during the running of the episode, how they like to do with Blu-ray releases?
Post by: Tom on January 13, 2009, 07:18:17 PM
But, a new mystery came up for me already (missed something again :bag:). Whose (empty) apartment did they visit to pick up the money? It appeared as if they knew the person, but somehow I must have missed them mentioning the name :-[.It's the apartment of the dead resistance fighters from the beginning of the episode.
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while it became more obvious to me that Headey was playing Sarah a bit different then Linda Hamilton in T2.
When I remember correctly, Lena Headey said in the special features, that she never saw the Terminator movies and the performance of Linda Hamilton.
Post by: Tom on January 13, 2009, 07:39:04 PM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), Josh Friedman (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: David Nutter
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Sonya Walger (Michelle Dixon), Tony Amendola (Enrique Salceda), Jesse Garcia (Carlos), Omid Abtahi (Sumner), Sasha Roiz (Police Officer), Jonathan Sadowski (Sayles), Dean Winters (Charley Dixon), Brian Allen (Highway Guy), Ambrit Millhouse (Receptionist), Sabrina Perez (Chola), John Henry Whitaker (Chet), Lisa Wilhoit (Sales Assistant)
After the pilot episode, I had feared that they couldn't hold, what the pilot episode promised. Because it is hard to have as much action as in the pilot on a television budget and time constraints. Unlike in a pilot, where usually the budget is higher.
So I knew going in, that the action will be probably be toned down for the rest of the series, but I am glad to see, that they could still provide some action while keeping the story interesting.
But one peeve I have about this episode:
They made it perfectly clear in the movies, and even made a big point about it in the pilot episode, that only living tissue could travel through time. This is why they sent back guys from the future, to build weapons and a time machine to hide it in the bank vault, and why they arrive naked in the future. But why was the Terminator metalic skeleton sent through time?
And I also didn't like it, that the skeleton walked around without a head. For one thing, as far as remember, the CPU of the Terminators is in the head. And for another thing, I had always had the impression, that they had visual perception only through the eyes.
I found it ridiculous and unnecessary. They could have just kept his head and the body together. The reason for these obvious errors was, that they wanted to send the Terminator back in time for the series, but at the time of shooting the second episode, they had replaced the actor. So they couldn't send the Terminator back in one piece (living tissue intact) because they didn't have the original actor available and they had to find a way to have the Terminator looking for another human "suit".
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Post by: Tom on January 13, 2009, 09:13:31 PM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), John Wirth (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: Paul Edwards
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Brendan Hines (Andy Goode), Jesse Garcia (Carlos), Adam Godley (The Scientist), Bernard White (Sarah's Doctor), Charlayne Woodard (Terissa Dyson), Kristina Apgar (Cheri Westin), Catherine Dent (Agent Greta Simpson), Alessandra Torresani (Jordan), Floriana Lima (Franny), David Ortiz (Guy #1), Sabrina Perez (Chola), Keith Pillow (Mr. Bianchi), Bashir Salahuddin (Security Guard - School), Tiya Sircar (Zoey), Cameron Van Hoy (Guy #2)
I like the school scenes. And that they did not heroicly save the girl from suicide. If they would have done that, the show would have probably become a "problem at school"-of-the-week kind of show.
But I still hate the storyline, where the Terminator is organizing his new skin: Give a scientist a formula and he will grow you a new body in a day.
Instead this ridiculous storyline, it would have been better to just let the change of the actor be unexplained. Changes in cast between the pilot and a series are not that uncommon and would have been tolerable to have this unexplained.
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Post by: Achim on January 14, 2009, 05:40:25 AM
Not even a pop-up menu during the running of the episode, how they like to do with Blu-ray releases?I forgot, I may not have checked that but I will. However, it's at least not reachable through the Top Menu.
They made it perfectly clear in the movies, and even made a big point about it in the pilot episode, that only living tissue could travel through time. This is why they sent back guys from the future, to build weapons and a time machine to hide it in the bank vault, and why they arrive naked in the future. But why was the Terminator metalic skeleton sent through time?That is a problem already inherent in the movies. I always understood that if living tissue covered the metal skeleton then it would be fine. Of course then you could still argue about the T-1000... Anyway, this is something I just went with for the sake of the story and at least they arrived naked in the future despite departing fully clothed from the vault.
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And I also didn't like it, that the skeleton walked around without a head. For one thing, as far as remember, the CPU of the Terminators is in the head. And for another thing, I had always had the impression, that they had visual perception only through the eyes.:bag: I actually didn't think about this... Anyway, good call, that was indeed rather ridiculous.
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I found it ridiculous and unnecessary. They could have just kept his head and the body together. The reason for these obvious errors was, that they wanted to send the Terminator back in time for the series, but at the time of shooting the second episode, they had replaced the actor. So they couldn't send the Terminator back in one piece (living tissue intact) because they didn't have the original actor available and they had to find a way to have the Terminator looking for another human "suit".I was under the impression there was already two terminators at this point. The one who almost caught them in the appartment (that was cool how Sarah simply threw Summer Glau's terminator out the window :laugh:) and then the one without head, in search for a new skin. So, as it had already been established that they had different models (otherwise Arnie would have been there ;)) why even bother with the broken one?
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2009, 07:53:48 AM
Post by: Achim on January 14, 2009, 09:33:07 AM
They bothered with the broken one, because he is the one from the past who knew they are Sarah and John Connor. No other Terminator knows how those two look like.:slaphead:
...and they actually hinted at that.
Post by: DJ Doena on January 14, 2009, 11:36:06 PM
Disc 1
Pilot
Synopsis: It's the year 1999 and Judgement Day hasn't happened - yet. Sarah and John are constantly switching aliases and living placaes. But one day two cyborgs have still found them: One comes in the form of a young girl called Cameron and she was sent to protect John. And the other is a classical terminator. They try to escape him but in the end there's no place they can hide, just another time.My Opinion: To fully enjoy the show one has to put it in a parallel universe to the movies. It's similar to the Highlander movie (There can be only one!) and the series. While I liked the general general idea of the show I had a problem with some story elements. For example: Cameron took the other cyborg out with a power surge. In my unprofessional opinion two minutes should have been enough to somehow destroy him or at least to damage him severely - he can't resist after all. And some of the stuff in the vault seemed unlikely, too. Even if I knew how to build a microchip in 1965 there wouldn't be the the technology (wafers etc.) to actually do it. But they had to find a way to push the series forward to today and it was fairly ok.
So I like the story but one mustn't think to much about the logic.
Gnothi Seauton
Synopsis: They jumped eight years into the future, into 2007. And now all three of them need new identities to blend in. Cameron leads Sarah to a group of resistance fighters who were send back by John to destroy Skynet before it goes operational. But when that fails they have to visit an old friend. Meanwhile John explores the technological differences between 1999 and 2007.My Opinion: The writers are obviously not very burdened with the complex issues that go with time-travel. It seems that whenever they need it they will send people back and forth through time as if nothing could disrupt the timeline. But if that were so then we would be back on the concept of a time-loop as the movie Terminator had present it (It has always happened that way and always will be, there's nothing we can do about it). But Terminator 2 had thrown that overboard and declared that the timeline can be changed and (as Doc Brown explained it in Back to the Future 2) that will result in another timeline. I also had a problem with that "Zombie Terminator" who can obviously walk without its head attached - I thought the "eyes" were its optical sensors?
Another thing I noticed: I don't know how far ahead the pilot was shot and what they thought would happen after it, but I didn't have the feeling to see a Mrs. Dyson or a detective who was eight years older than in the pilot. They should have used a better mask to make them look younger in the pilot (Look at Bruce Boxleitner in Babylon 5: In the Beginning!)
Too bad Enrique had to die, I would have liked it to see Tony Amendola (Master Bra'tac in Stargate SG-1) more often.
The Turk
Synopsis: Sarah is looking for former employees of Cyberdyne Systems to check whether they are continuing the Skynet project or doing something else dangerous. Connor and Cameron pose as siblings in their new school and try to blend in.My Opinion: Is it my imagination or did the metall skeleton of that terminator look a bit too shiny? He had been blasted to peaces and has lain in the garbage. Which brings up another question: How did he get there in the first place? He wasn't within the time bubble and thus hasn't travelled with the others. What happend to that bank building in the last eight years and why has no one ever found the skeleton or the head - which lay quite open on the side of the street?
And when Sarah burned down Andy's house the fires looked digital - and fake. Don't they have the money anymore to burn down a real, wooden facade?
Disc 1 - My Opinion: The show is enjoyable, the characters are fine. But as you can see the show opens a can of questions for me and they bother me because that makes me thinking that either the writers didn't see this problems or they thought the viewers wouldn't notice or that the viewers wouldn't care. None of which is really an acceptable answer in my opinion. But I will continue to watch and see how it unfolds.
And now I can read your comments (This is my first time watching of T:SCC) and can add myself to the list of reviewers. ;)
Post by: Tom on January 14, 2009, 11:44:22 PM
How did he get there in the first place? He wasn't within the time bubble and thus hasn't travelled with the others. What happend to that bank building in the last nine years and why has no one ever found the skeleton or the head - which lay quite open on the side of the street?
I had assumed, that he was thrown through the time bubble (and thus a big plot hole). But maybe you are correct, and he wasn't. But then it is quite a coincident, that he started working again, eight years later at the same time, the others arrived in the present time.
Post by: DJ Doena on January 14, 2009, 11:50:03 PM
How did he get there in the first place? He wasn't within the time bubble and thus hasn't travelled with the others. What happend to that bank building in the last nine years and why has no one ever found the skeleton or the head - which lay quite open on the side of the street?
I had assumed, that he was thrown through the time bubble (and thus a big plot hole). But maybe you are correct, and he wasn't. But then it is quite a coincident, that he started working again, eight years later at the same time, the others arrived in the present time.
It would be the logical explanation why has no one ever seen him: That he has travelled with the others. But I also thought the pilot made it clear that Sarah had blasted him away from the bubble. And his skin was quite damaged, his metal parts opely visible. The (somewhoat weak but nonetheless an) explanation the movies gave was that only flesh could travel through time and I always thought that the metal had to be covered with flesh for this to work.
Post by: Achim on January 15, 2009, 05:27:48 AM
My Opinion: The writers are obviously not very burdened with the complex issues that go with time-travel. It seems that whenever they need it they will send people back and forth through time as if nothing could disrupt the timeline. But if that were so then we would be back on the concept of a time-loop as the movie Terminator had present it (It has always happened that way and always will be, there's nothing we can do about it). But Terminator 2 had thrown that overboard and declared that the timeline can be changed and (as Doc Brown explained it in Back to the Future 2) that will result in another timeline.While it actually means that the Special Edition of T2 doesn't work (as they show the Skynet-free future), but I think it must be the way that Judgement Day is in fact inevitable. That concept also goes along with the story told in T3. Since John Connor is the son of a person who travelled back from the future that future must happen. It is, however, a valid point that all that time travel going in is ultimately bound to change history in some way, which could be a fun toopic to explore.
All your other points are well taken. Apparently I turn off my brain just enough to ignore them while watching the show :hysterical:
Post by: Dragonfire on January 15, 2009, 11:22:54 PM
1. Pilot
No one is ever safe, least of all Sarah Connor and her son, John. Tired of running from the machines, Sarah decides to stand and fight.
My Thoughts
I thought this was a good start to the series. Certain things were like the first two movies, but I thought that still worked. It made sense to me that Sarah and John would still basically be living on the run even though they thought they had stopped Skynet and Judgment Day in the second movie. Sarah was tied to the explosion at Cyberdine and Dyson's death, so it was believable to me that the police and even FBI would be looking for her. It didn't seem as...believable that Sarah would have gotten in the situation she was at the beginning of the episode though. And I thought something else just didn't work right either.
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Despite the few..issues I had with the episode, I still really enjoyed it. I loved seeing Summer Glau again. Some of her expressions did remind me a bit of River, but it was still a different character.
2. Gnothi Seauton
New future, new identity. Cromartie, the battered but relentless Terminator programmed to kill John Connor, resurfaces.
My Thoughts
I enjoyed this episode as well. It worked well to follow what was set up in the first episode with them getting settled in a different time and everything.
I would have liked if there had been a bit more explanation for a few things though.
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I still liked the episode, but the few things I mentioned in the spoiler did bug me..and the more I think about them the more they bug me. Hopefully those sort of things won't be happening all the time..if they do, I see myself getting really irritated at times.
3. The Turk
He's just a geek with a hobby. But is the computer chess program Andy Goode developed the beginning of the end?
My Thoughts
I did enjoy this episode as well. It was interesting to see John and Cameron going to school and the explanation they came up with to explain why she was setting off the metal detector. I also liked how this episode set up a new potential way for Skynet to possible start. I didn't notice any issues that irked me in this one.
I think the cast is doing well. I think I like Sarah from the movies a little better..but that doesn't mean this version of the character is bad..just different.
So far, even though I was irked by a few things, I still really enjoyed these episodes and am ready to watch the next disc.
Post by: DJ Doena on January 16, 2009, 12:31:07 AM
As far as I understood it that is an offical statement from someone connected to the show.
But that still doesn't explain how the body could work or why no one has bothered with it.
And the bank couldn't have been destroyed by the gun, because they fired it and then needed about 20 seconds to finally disappear. How was the weapon supposed to cause this delay?
Post by: Dragonfire on January 16, 2009, 03:47:50 AM
Regarding the head: I read on another board that the head has alos done the time travel. The skin was burning because of the gun but it protected it long enough to make it to 2007.
As far as I understood it that is an offical statement from someone connected to the show.
But that still doesn't explain how the body could work or why no one has bothered with it.
And the bank couldn't have been destroyed by the gun, because they fired it and then needed about 20 seconds to finally disappear. How was the weapon supposed to cause this delay?
Hmmm...Ok. I can accept that. But like you said it doesn't explain what was going on with the body. How could the head make the body work when they were no where near each other? And if the bank wasn't destroyed, what rubble was the Terminator body buried in?
Oh..with the gun, I thought she fired it just before they vanished.
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Post by: Najemikon on January 16, 2009, 09:56:00 AM
It's quite right that the cyborg should only have been able to travel if covered in organic material. The story goes that the head was supposed to still be fleshy, but Fox felt it was too graphic and violent, so they had to use the skull.
First time I heard that I thought it made sense, but now I'm not so sure. A severed head bouncing around would be harder to ignore in the future rather than the idea that a scavenger finds the skull. Plus they might not have needed the doctor storyline if they'd just sent it through intact.
I think it's far more likely that they thought a metal skull flying towards the camera in the middle of a huge explosion just looked cool and sod the logic!
Post by: Achim on January 20, 2009, 05:04:11 AM
Good, we're back in action ;D After the previous episode had slowed things down a bit the series gets back on track here (IMHO). John is beginning taking things into his hands, as that's his future anyway, with things going slightly wrong as to build tension and drama (I don't count that as a spoiler)... The way the machines make sure Judgement Day happens (and in their favor) is set up in a bigger scope.
"You can go... if you can get past her." :laugh:
Post by: Achim on January 20, 2009, 12:16:26 PM
:phew: Thank God episode 3 was just an intermediate slump. Also this episode was really good. They had fun dialog moments, a great action set piece with a terminator fight and some exposed terminator skull. What more can we ask for. Oh, and then there is "that 90210-guy" playing his part decently enough. The way he was introduced, by means of bringing someone back from a previous episode felt quite clever to me. And then there was grief counseling at school :)
John: "I call shotgun."
Cameron: "I call 9mm."
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Post by: Najemikon on January 20, 2009, 02:08:21 PM
Examples: Pilot repeats first two films, almost verbatim. Viewer worries about it being repetitive. Cue bank scene! Worries evaporate and then they cancel out crap T3 storyline as bonus. Then there's the school scenes; oh good grief, they're doing "Terminator High"! The adventures of Johnny Connor and his Metal Friend getting into awkward scrapes... but they're off an running by the next episode! Very well done.
Post by: Dragonfire on January 20, 2009, 11:30:42 PM
Cameron discovers a truck loaded with enough metal to build over 500 endoskeletons. Are more Terminators about to be created?
My Thoughts
This was a very good episode. There were hints of John starting to take more control and make decisions instead of just doing everything his mother said all the time. Granted, his decision was a bit risky and put him in danger. I liked seeing John try to take more control, though I also get why Sarah wanted to run. I also thought it was interesting to see how Skynet was trying to adapt plans to make sure that Judgment Day still happened. And Cameron offered a brief explanation for how the head and body were still working and how they were programed to repair themselves...which does tie back in to the first movie with how that Terminator was repairing himself. It still seemed iffy to me how the body could work when the head was so far away, but it isn't bugging me as much since there has been an attempt to explain.
5. Queen's Gambit
A chess contest has the potential to link the Turk and Skynet. Meanwhile, the missing Resistance Fighter appears.
My Thoughts
This was a really good episode. I think the potential link between the Turk and Skynet made sense. I liked that Sarah still had some..compassion and didn't want to just start killing everyone who might possibly be connected to Skynet in the future. Cameron was there for that..lol. Anyway, the episode was really good and I liked the added connection to Kyle. At first I was surprised that Derek didn't know more..but then it made sense once I thought about it.
6. Dungeons and Dragons
Derek's consciousness shifts between his injured state in the present and the future he already knows to be true.
My Thoughts
Another really good episode. I liked seeing bits of the future and what Derek experienced before he traveled back in time. I'm wondering if something happened to make Derek distrust Cameron, or if he just feels that way because she's a Terminator. I'm also wondering some other things now too and I'm anxious to finish the last episodes. It will be hard for me to wait to finish them up. lol.
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I'm really enjoying this show and I'm glad I decided to pick up the DVD set.
Post by: Tom on January 21, 2009, 12:40:55 AM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), John Enbom (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: Sergio Mimica Gezzan
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Catherine Dent (Agent Greta Simpson), Brian Bloom (Carter), Andy Umberger (Davidson), Lee Thompson Young (Agent Stewart), Garret Dillahunt (Cromartie), Douglas Bennett (Guard), Michael Dempsey (Detective), Greg Eagles (Crewman #1), Mark Adair-Rios (Mike), Hector Atreyu Ruiz (Driver), Linda Shing (Dolores), Sean Smith (Dr. Lyman), Taira Soo (Office Manager)
A decent episode but nothing special. But I did like the ending. I thought it was very creepy when John had to get the key from the Terminator in stand-by mode.
Rating:
Post by: Dragonfire on January 21, 2009, 02:26:38 AM
I thought it was very creepy when John had to get the key from the Terminator in stand-by mode.
Rating:
I did too. I half expected him to power back up and attack John.
Post by: Achim on January 21, 2009, 12:07:08 PM
Yeah, another good episode. Some mysteries were being set up so that there is some suspense to find out what will develop from that. Seeing a T-800 during those flashbacky-forwardsy thingys (just a look-a-like though...) was nice. I thought the future scenes was quite well done and help to develop the "back"story for Derek. ("Dereks don't run." :laugh:)
I too can hardly wait for Monday so that I can continue (I have a day off Monday, in fact the whole next week, so I just might finish the last disc in one day ;D
No one ;liner stuck in my mind this time ???
I just checked and found that Season 2 is apparently a full-blown one, according to IMDb there's be 22 episodes. :thumbup:...for more content :weep:...for higher price when purchasing the Blu-ray set later this year
Post by: Tom on January 21, 2009, 09:23:42 PM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), Natalie Chaidez (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: Matt Earl Beesley
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Garret Dillahunt (Cromartie), Sonya Walger (Michelle Dixon), Brendan Hines (Andy Goode), Kristina Apgar (Cheri Westin), Mark Ivanir (Dmitri Shipkov), Neil Hopkins (Mr. Harris), Matt McColm (Vick Chamberlain), Brian Austin Green (Derek Reese), Dean Winters (Charley Dixon), Luis Chavez (Morris), Josue Aguirre (Bobo), Troy Cephers (Guard), Ray Chavez (Old Rebel Soldier), John de Vito (Young John), Ally Maki (Student), Jacob Witkin (Announcer)
I enjoyed this episode a lot. Funny Cameron moments ("I am busy doing John's homework" :laugh:). I like the introduction of Derek Reese, who will now be part of the cast. I also like it, that they involve Charley now in the action.
Rating:
Post by: DJ Doena on January 21, 2009, 10:17:06 PM
Disc 2
Heavy Metal
Synopsis: While the others are asleep Cameron checks for possible threats and she finds a huge shipment of the alloy the Terminators are made of. It's protected by another Terminator but John wants to steal the alloy and destroy it. My Opinion: I liked it that John took charge even if it was dangerous. But apart from that not much has actually happened.
Queen's Gambit
Synopsis: Andy - the man who had built the Turk - build yet another machine. It's a chess machine and he's competing in an computer chess tournament to win a government contract with the military. But someone kills Andy - it's the missing resistance fighter.My Opinion: For some reason I expected the whole time that Cameron would challenge one of the chess computers. I know that they have to stay undercover and she's a machine and has no emotions, but still, something in her eyes made me expecting it. I still don't know what to think about the "FBI Terminator" / "Cromartie" yet because I have no idea what kind of plot they have for him in future episodes.
Dungeons and Dragons
Synopsis: Derek Reese, the resitsance fighter and brother of Kyle Reese, will die if his wounds aren't treated. John contacts Sarah's former fiancé from eight years ago because he is a paramedic. And while he tries to save Derek and learns the truth, Derek has dreams about his past (or future, depending on the point of view).My Opinion: This was basically the introduction episode for Derek and since they've put that much effort in explaining his background I believe he'll stay for a while. I like him, he seems like the right type to be a resistance fighter. And with every episode I like Cameron more.
Disc 2 - My Opinion: Either I have become more lenient or they didn't make as many mistakes as in the previous episodes. I also think the addition of Derek and Charley could be interesting. But that depends on how long they will stay.
Post by: Tom on January 21, 2009, 10:42:52 PM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), Ashley Edward Miller (Writer), Zack Stentz (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: Jeffrey Hunt
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Jonathan Jackson (Kyle Reese), Edoardo Ballerini (Timms), Brendan Hines (Andy Goode), Peter Mensah (Perry), Andre Royo (Sumner), Jonathan Sadowski (Sayles), Matt McColm (Vick Chamberlain), Brian Austin Green (Derek Reese), Dean Winters (Charley Dixon)
Derek gets a little background story, which is good. The first few episodes they made it look like, that it was a regular thing to send resistance fighters back in time and now there a lot of them running around. But in this episode I get more the feeling, that the group we saw killed in the beginning of the series was maybe the only group which was sent back. Or maybe one of very few groups. I hope this is right. I don't like the idea, that they could introduce yet other people from the future whenever they feel like they need some for the story.
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Post by: Achim on January 22, 2009, 05:59:34 AM
My Opinion: For some reason I expected the whole time that Cameron would challenge one of the chess computers. I know that they have to stay undercover and she's a machine and has no emotions, but still, something in her eyes made me expecting it. I still don't know what to think about the "FBI Terminator" / "Cromartie" yet because I have no idea what kind of plot they have for him in future episodes.So did you go back and found the scene I mentioned, where it's hinted that the FBI dude is a terminator? I tried finding it again yesterday but failed (I was going to simply not bring up the topic again, but now I am curious); apparently it was earlier within an episode, not the last scene as I had suspected.
Post by: Dragonfire on January 22, 2009, 06:14:39 AM
Post by: Achim on January 22, 2009, 09:31:03 AM
Of course. Thanks for sorting that out for me.
Of course, now I am again left with that weird memory that I have seen the mirrored face of the black FBI agent with the red glow of Terminator eyes. Hmmm, maybe it was in the deleted scenes? :hmmmm:
Post by: addicted2dvd on January 22, 2009, 01:08:01 PM
Disc 3:
NOTE: need to do another quick week...
NOTE: need to do another quick week...
7. The Demon Hand
Not bad... definitely a decent episode... but for some reason I felt like I wanted more.
8. Vick's Chip
Pretty cool episode... I enjoyed the storyline this one has.
9. What He Beheld
Maybe not the best of season finales.... but I did enjoy it... and liked the cliffhanger they had.
Over-all Season Thoughts:
Over-all I still enjoyed this series quite a bit. But I am a little concerned. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as I did the first time watching it. So for me at least I am wondering how much re-play value this series will have.
Post by: Dragonfire on January 24, 2009, 01:20:40 AM
:slaphead:
Of course. Thanks for sorting that out for me.
Of course, now I am again left with that weird memory that I have seen the mirrored face of the black FBI agent with the red glow of Terminator eyes. Hmmm, maybe it was in the deleted scenes? :hmmmm:
I honestly don't remember seeing the black FBI agent with red eyes any time.
Post by: DJ Doena on January 24, 2009, 08:07:15 AM
Of course, now I am again left with that weird memory that I have seen the mirrored face of the black FBI agent with the red glow of Terminator eyes. Hmmm, maybe it was in the deleted scenes? :hmmmm:I rewatched the scene at the end of the pilot and the cop doesn't even look on the screen, only Charley does.
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Post by: Achim on January 24, 2009, 10:42:57 AM
Well, it seems I may just as well have dreamed about that. :bag: The scene stuck in my memory (although apparently fake) plays out with a computer screen (father than TV screen) in frame, then the focus shifts to reveal the red terminator eyes and then the camera turns around to reveal the person sitting at / looking into the computer (in my memory that was the black guy).
Like I said in my previous post, they never came back to that motiv anyway so it was just a figment of my imagination, I guess. :stars:
Post by: DJ Doena on January 24, 2009, 12:42:35 PM
First we see:
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Cut. Next Scene.
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Post by: Dragonfire on January 25, 2009, 02:06:32 AM
That was some sort of change in scenes. It started with the FBI guy putting the information about Sarah in the computer - that she was also known as Sarah Reese. Then the Terminator, Cromaite or whatever - I still can't spell his name lol - had hacked into the FBI system or something and was looking up Sarah, which is how he found out about her using the name Reese..which is how he eventually found them.
Post by: Achim on January 25, 2009, 05:46:30 AM
Post by: Dragonfire on January 27, 2009, 05:42:37 AM
Ellison digs into the history of Sarah Connor. Cameron sets out to find the Turk but discovers something else entirely.
My Thoughts
This was an interesting episode. I liked that it tied back into some of the things from the second movie and even brought back that idiot Dr. Silberman. Where he ended up at the end of the episode was just..perfect. I loved that. :) I did like that what he saw when Sarah escaped and the T-1000 was after her was addressed..as well as how the doctor and the staff dealt with it. I didn't like one development as much...just because I didn't think it really fit with the character of Sarah.
8. Vick's Chip
What does a T-888 really think? John attempts to hack into a Terminator's memory chip in order to protect Cameron before it's too late.
My Thoughts
I thought this episode was entertaining and interesting as well..though I'm not sure why the plot outline said the hacking was done to protect Cameron. I must have missed something..but it was late when I watched it. Anyway, it was really interesting to see John doing more, though I did wonder how they could afford the computers and stuff while on the run. I really want to know what is going on with Cameron...and exactly why Derek feels the way he does about her. I'm thinking it is more than just her being a terminator...
I'll probably go watch the last episode here in a little while tonight. Then I'll be anxious to see the 2nd season episodes. lol I may start tracking them down online.
Post by: Achim on January 27, 2009, 11:17:48 AM
Another one of those "sorry we need to bore you, but we need to bring acreoos some more exposition" episodes. They aren't bad, it's just not a lot going on, really. I enjoyed them bringing Silverman back.
"No, I'm not police. But I do find them useful."
Vick's Chip
Those scenes with the chip were quite interesting; and creepy at times! It was cool how they tightened the screws a bit on the suspicions against Cameron, but also on Derek; good stuff for season 2.
"The roast should have been removed from the stove 18 minutes and 27 seconds ago."
What He Beheld
I somehow expected they'd go out with a bang. Well, they didn't, but I still thought this was an excellent episode. Some twists and turns along the way, a very touching moment (that scene with John and Derek, you'll know what I mean once you've seen it) and a decent cliffhanger (seems they were very confident or already knew they were picked up for a second season...). The scene in the internet café sure played out quite unexpected for a show like this.
School Friend: "Is this your car?"
Cameron: "No. It belongs to the guy I killed and stuffed in the trunk."
My conclusion:
A cool TV series that connect Terminator 2 and 3 brilliantly (so far), with good acting, sufficient amount of action and some humor thrown in for good measure. :thumbup: Looking forward to season 2 (full-length!).
Post by: goodguy on January 27, 2009, 11:57:42 AM
The Demon Hand
Another one of those "sorry we need to bore you, but we need to bring acreoos some more exposition" episodes. They aren't bad, it's just not a lot going on, really.
Funny. As I said in my review a while ago, to me that was by far the best episode of the season.
Post by: Tom on January 27, 2009, 09:12:11 PM
What He Beheld
I somehow expected they'd go out with a bang. Well, they didn't
Probably because this episode wasn't supposed to be a season finale. It had to serve as one as the writer's strike put an end to the production.
Post by: Tom on January 27, 2009, 09:12:41 PM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), Toni Graphia (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: Charles Beeson
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Mark Ivanir (Dmitri Shipkov), Angela Gots (Maria), Traber Burns (Chief of Staff), Brian Austin Green (Derek Reese), Bruce Davison (Dr. Peter Silberman), Mark Bloom (FBI Evidence Clerk), Ron Butler (Social Worker), Alex Veadov (Russian Man)
I like it when they are referencing events of the movies. I think Derek is a good addition to the cast.
But I don't think it was a good choice to have Cameron ballet dancing. Only because the actress is a ballet dancer doesn't mean you have to incorporate it into the story.
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Post by: Achim on January 27, 2009, 09:25:07 PM
Funny. As I said in my review a while ago, to me that was by far the best episode of the season.Well, my words may have been a bit harsh there, and like I said already, it's not a bad episode (although a tad too religious for my taste). Slow, it's slow compared to the others, so for an action series it's something different...
But I can say, while I'd have to go back and look at all episodes again to find a favorite, it's quite likely not this one...
Probably because this episode wasn't supposed to be a season finale. It had to serve as one as the writer's strike put an end to the production.Ah, yes, good point there. Well, it made for a short season, which I like a little better (like Dexter). We'll see how the next one will play out, when they will make their moves through 20+ episodes...
Post by: Tom on January 27, 2009, 11:13:14 PM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), Daniel T. Thomsen (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: J. Miller Tobin
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Garret Dillahunt (Cromartie), Kristina Apgar (Cheri Westin), Edoardo Ballerini (Timms), Karina Logue (Barbara Chamberlain), Andre Royo (Sumner), Jonathan Sadowski (Sayles), Matt McColm (Vick Chamberlain), Luis Chavez (Morris), Brian Austin Green (Derek Reese), Bruno Amato (Gym Coach), Joshua Wolf Coleman (Clerk), Allen Evangelista (Doug), Aki Kotabe (Kendo), Tony Raymond Wilde (Eric Carlson)
I think we can make a drinking game with Derek's line "That's what they do" (while looking at Cameron).
"She lied" - "That's what they do"
"He killed her" - "That's what they do"
:laugh:
One of the things I didn't like about T2 is John's incredible hacking capabilites. And here they are doing it again. He was thrown eight years into the future, so he is new to current computers. And yet he can interface with a chip from the future and hack into the memory storage of the T-888 in a few minutes/hours, what even Cameron couldn't do.
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Post by: Tom on January 28, 2009, 12:11:08 AM
Writer: Josh Friedman (Created By), Ian Goldberg (Writer), James Cameron (Original Characters By), Gale Anne Hurd (Original Characters By)
Director: Mike Rohl
Cast: Lena Headey (Sarah Connor), Thomas Dekker (John Connor), Summer Glau (Cameron), Richard T. Jones (Agent James Ellison), Garret Dillahunt (Cromartie), Catherine Dent (Agent Greta Simpson), Craig Fairbrass (Fake Sarkissian), Jesse Garcia (Carlos), James Urbaniak (Café Manager), Luis Chavez (Morris), Sabrina Perez (Chola), Ryan Kelley (Young Derek), Skyler Gisondo (Young Kyle), Brian Austin Green (Derek Reese), Dean Winters (Charley Dixon), Keith Pillow (Mr. Bianchi), Mark Bloom (FBI Evidence Clerk), Ramona Dubarry (Karen), Aldo Gonzalez (Cholo #1), Bailee Madison (Little Girl)
A good episode. I like the birthday present for John from Derek. Even though this episode wasn't supposed to be a season finale, I think it works quite well as such. We have a nice emotional scene (above mentioned birthday gift). And a big blow to the FBI agent's investigation (the "slaughtering" of all the FBI agents), with a hint that he will play an important role in the future in favor for the machines. And then the last scene where the car bomb with Cameron in it goes up (which she will probably walk away from with minor damage, I assume).
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Post by: Dragonfire on January 28, 2009, 01:50:42 AM
Sarah and John's true identities are discovered by a mysterious operative. Comartie's infiltration of the FBI has devastating consequences.
My Thoughts
I really enjoyed this episode and think it worked pretty well as a season finale. There were still doubts about Cameron and Derek that seem to have all sorts of potential for the second season. I like that the FBI agent has had to realize that there are some very strange things going on and I think it will be interesting to see how he continues to cope with that. I loved the birthday present Derek gave John. It was very touching and also opened up some possibilities for the second season as well that should be interesting.
Overall I've really enjoyed this series and am glad I decided to pick up the DVD set. It is a really entertaining show that has added new things to John and Sarah's story while also remaining true to the source material of the first two movies. Now I want to start on the second season episodes right now. :laugh:
Post by: addicted2dvd on January 28, 2009, 10:05:12 PM
Disc 3:
NOTE: need to do another quick week...
NOTE: need to do another quick week...
7. The Demon Hand
Not bad... definitely a decent episode... but for some reason I felt like I wanted more.
8. Vick's Chip
Pretty cool episode... I enjoyed the storyline this one has.
9. What He Beheld
Maybe not the best of season finales.... but I did enjoy it... and liked the cliffhanger they had.
Over-all Season Thoughts:
Over-all I still enjoyed this series quite a bit. But I am a little concerned. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as I did the first time watching it. So for me at least I am wondering how much re-play value this series will have.
Post by: DJ Doena on January 29, 2009, 09:55:38 PM
Cameron imitated the voice of the man when they were "ordered" to come "here". How did they find out where "here" was and who was that black woman with the blood on her shirt?
Post by: DJ Doena on January 29, 2009, 10:32:13 PM
Disc 3
The Demon Hand
Synopsis: After he found the hand of the Terminator Special Agent Ellison begins to dig real deep into Sarah Connor's file. He watches her video tapes from the mental institution and he tries to get in contact with Dr. Silberman, her psychiatrist during her stay there. Meanwhile Cameron tries to retrieve the Turk.My Opinion: I liked this episode for two reasons. The first one is the nice wrap-up of the second movie. And even though it's on "another timeline" I thought that this Dr. Silberman was very close to the one we saw in Terminator 3 shortly before he encountered the Arnie-Terminator for the third time.
But my favourite scene of this episode was when Cameron left the apartment after she got the information. This scene screamed at me "Never forget that she's a machine, not a feeling, living being, no matter how she looks like.". She protected them as long as she needed them and then they were of no more concern to her. To save them would have been an act of humanity and that's not on her program.
Vick's Chip
Synopsis: Derek finds the CPU of the previously destroyed Terminator and accuses Cameron of lying and she admits to it. After the argument is over, John tries to load the data from the memory chips to see what the Terminator was doing before he was destroyed. And there they find a connection to a project which can control the entire traffic infrastructure of Los Angeles.My Opinion: This is one thing that has always bugged me on Science-Fiction series: That somehow all computer hardware and software is compatible and that they can communicate with one another. OK, Skynet and the Terminators are an invention of the human race but where did John even get a compatible interface port to plug the CPU in?
But that aside I liked the fact that both Cameron and Derek became a bit more grey (ok, we already knew he killed that Turk guy, but still).
What He Beheld
Synopsis: Sarah tries to purchase the Turk but the seller tries to blackmail her with her past and he's watching John to make sure Sarah pays. But his plan doesn't turn out as expected. Meanwhile Ellison discovers that Kester is a fake FBI agent and he tries to take him down.My Opinion: Taking into account that it wasn't planned as cliffhanger it was a decent one. It leaves quite a number of questions open that demand an answer and thus the viewer will most likely tune in "next year". I especially wonder why Ellison is still alive. Is he important to Skynet or is it just because he was unarmed and no threat to Cromartie? But then again Terminators are not the Borg, why should he let someone live who can identify him? As I said, enough reason to continue watching.
Disc 3 - My Opinion: I like the show better with every episode I'm watching and the less time travel is involved the less mistakes with the timeline happen.
The Season - My Opinion: It's not the best show in the world, but very enjoyable, especially due to the two female leads. I'll continue watching it even though it's likely to get cancelled after the second season.
Post by: Dragonfire on January 30, 2009, 03:17:11 AM
One question to the last episode: I have the feeling I missed something but I don't know what.
Cameron imitated the voice of the man when they were "ordered" to come "here". How did they find out where "here" was and who was that black woman with the blood on her shirt?
I'm not sure how they figured out the where the here was.
The black woman was in the second or third episode. After Sarah, John and Cameron jumped to 2007, Sarah got in contact with the one guy she'd known before -I can't remember his name now - about getting new papers for everyone. IDs and social security cards. Her friend didn't make the documents anymore, but he sent her to see his nephew I think it was. The black woman was around the house where Sarah and Cameron went for the papers. Cameron waited outside and ended up standing by the woman next to a car. In the last episode, that bad guy - I have no idea what his name was - ended up back at the nephew's place trying to track down Sarah. I think the black woman was showing walking around outside the house again when the bad guy arrived. I have no idea why she went to Sarah..or what was up with her and Cameron in the car toward the end of the episode though.