Post by: Dragonfire on April 04, 2010, 05:40:28 AM
The show is really entertaining and I'm glad that I decided to pick up the DVD sets for the show. I liked how the things tied to Lilly Kane's murder are first introduced and then continue to pop up throughout the season why Veronica tries to solve the case. I also really liked all the smaller mysteries that Veronica deals with in the episodes. The different story elements work together very well to make an entertaining show. I was really surprised by a few things that come up during the season. The story is very compelling and interesting and is resolved in a believable way by the end of the season. The characters are complex without being either all good or all bad. That does make them more interesting and believable. Some of them seem to be huge jerks and they start showing that they have a decent side as well. Veronica has some flaws as well, and I think that works for the character.
I loved the first season of the show. I was disappointed that there weren't more extras on the DVD set, but I'm still glad I have the show.
I did get a longer review posted on Epinions.
Veronica Mars - The Complete First Season (http://www0.epinions.com/review/mvie_mu-1148314/content_507417955972)
Post by: goodguy on April 04, 2010, 09:29:51 AM
I was disappointed that there weren't more extras on the DVD set...
I remember that Rob Thomas made an audio commentary for the pilot available online somewhere. Don't remember the link though, and I'm not sure if it still exists.
Post by: addicted2dvd on April 17, 2010, 06:03:56 PM
I been having the urge to watch the show again myself. If I ain't mistaken I already did an episode by episode review for all 3 seasons.So there probably won't be no need to do it again.
Post by: addicted2dvd on April 17, 2010, 06:49:50 PM
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Post by: Achim on May 18, 2010, 03:37:29 PM
I find this show absolutely amazing. On the surface it's all fluff; mind you, great fluff. I mean, it's good solid entertainment. The 45 minutes pass at great speed and each episode (so far) ends without drag. However, what got me hooked that they throw in some cool themes in it too! Like teenage drug abuse, teenage rape, sex change; all that so far in the first 4 episodes. And again with the fluff. I mean, sometimes I found it to just move along, with me not being concerned about plot at all. :headscratch:
They also throw in some stylish stuff occasionally. I don't just mean the flashbacks with the washed out colors, but also those scenes where Veronica is shown all slow while everyone else is speed up.
I like how they throw in a case of the week, but are not always overly concerned with it. The cases usually solve themselves. Then there is the overall arc, which is not really handled through plot, it's just here (again:) :headscratch: (but in a good way). It feels rather clear (given the type and character of show) where it's headed, but I'd love them to prove me wrong. The strangest thing is, it feels a bit like Dexter, the way they spread out arc versus case of the week.
I guess what I am trying to say is: I love the show and don't really know why :laugh:
Thanks to all of those who "recommended" it and made me buy this series. :thumbup:
EDIT:
Just checked wit DVD Profiler and finally realized where I had seen Enrico Colantoni before :slaphead:
Post by: Achim on May 24, 2010, 08:00:13 AM
I thought Veronica was occasionally a little too full of herself, getting way too cocky and self conscious and started to proceed with somewhat questionable ways. I understand she's 17, but but the way she proceeds to do dangerous things time and again despite her father's warnings had me annoyed more than once.
Lilly's killer. I mean, seriously?
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At to watch the first episode of season 2 right away, just to see how certain things panned out... Cool season starter! Only the über-slow reveal of the boyfriend was a bit overdone.
Post by: Dragonfire on May 24, 2010, 08:04:19 AM
Post by: Achim on May 24, 2010, 08:20:02 AM
I did think that Veronica made some...questionable decisions and leaps of logic..and rushed into some situations.Yes!
I didn't like that she was basically cheating the other girl who was about to receive a lot of money, trying to make her help, which would have resulted in the loss of that money!
In the last two episodes she seemed to run from person to person, always with a "I know something" attitude, getting a new piece of information every time, without verifying any of it. No wonder she hurt so many people along the way.
Post by: Dragonfire on May 24, 2010, 08:22:39 AM
Post by: goodguy on May 24, 2010, 08:38:07 AM
I finished up the first season yesterday. I have two main issues with the second half of the season:
I thought Veronica was occasionally a little too full of herself...
It's been a while, but I liked cocky and self-assured Veronica. If anything, they seemed to tone her down a little in the second half or at least counter her attitude with less morally questionable characters. That development annoyed me a little. Also, there are a few rather weak episodes in the second half (Bling, Mars vs Mars, MAD).
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There are actually a lot of clues throughout the season. But I won't pretend that I recognized them on first viewing.
Post by: DJ Doena on May 24, 2010, 08:49:57 AM
I did think that Veronica made some...questionable decisions and leaps of logic..and rushed into some situations.
And in the end that's going to bite her in her lower back...
Post by: Achim on May 24, 2010, 10:51:02 AM
There are actually a lot of clues throughout the season. But I won't pretend that I recognized them on first viewing.:hmmmm: That sounds interesting. Although I am not sure just how soon I will rewatch all 15 hours of this...
Post by: Dragonfire on May 24, 2010, 03:54:16 PM
And I do like Veronica as a character overall. I just think she didn't always stop and think as much as she should have before acting.
Post by: Achim on June 03, 2010, 02:57:21 PM
I am still enjoying it about half of the time. Some of the case-of-the-weeks are quite alright and loads of the dialog is still very witty and enjoyable. But boy, V. has become a b@#$. Not for doing what she does (towards father and boyfriend), but definitely for how she does it.
Well, no spoilers please. I hope they are just digging her a hole she can crawl out of later on, once she fell of her high horse into it.
Season 2 had its ups and downs as well, but I was always compelled to keep watching. Season 3 is slightly more of an effort to go through. :shrug:
Post by: DJ Doena on June 03, 2010, 03:01:09 PM
Well, no spoilers please. I hope they are just digging her a hole she can crawl out of later on, once she fell of her high horse into it.
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Post by: Achim on June 03, 2010, 03:04:53 PM
Of course I had to read :bag:Well, no spoilers please. I hope they are just digging her a hole she can crawl out of later on, once she fell of her high horse into it.(click to show/hide)
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Post by: DJ Doena on June 03, 2010, 03:18:29 PM
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Post by: Achim on June 03, 2010, 03:20:55 PM
Can't be much worse than SOAP.(click to show/hide)
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Post by: DJ Doena on June 03, 2010, 03:26:32 PM
Can't be much worse than SOAP.(click to show/hide)
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PS: What is SOAP?
Post by: MEJHarrison on June 04, 2010, 12:52:00 AM
I am now almost half way through the third season and begin to wonder why they make Veronica so unlikable? So the viewers would part easier at the end of the season...? :headscratch:
I just finished this a month or two back and I totally agree. It was shocking how unlikeable they made her. :stars:
Post by: Achim on June 04, 2010, 06:13:15 AM
PS: What is SOAP?It's a spoof on actual soap series. Lasted for three seasons and has, among others, Billy Crystal, Robert/Richard(?) Mulligan and Katherine Helmod in it. They show is verysilly,yet hasanincrediblemix of funny moments and dramatic scenes. :thumbup:
See here. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075584/)
Post by: Achim on June 07, 2010, 05:58:15 AM
Only the first two discs were as bad as I previously described and basically as soon as the college rape case was solved Veronica became "normal" again. Solving the crime of the second multi-story arc was actually very good. Her strange behavior during the rape case was probably done on purpose, doesn't mean I have to like it. Only the last episode had some developments again I didn'tz enjoy as much, mainly involving Logan this time (at first it was o.k., then they pushed it too far). Of the three seasons this was the strongest cliffhanger and I actually quite liked the actual ending (walking off into the rain with that particular song).
On the 6th disc of the set is the "pitch reel"(?) forSeason 4. Cool idea, it seems, would have liked to see that. Wonder if gthey would have ignored the cliffhanger of season 3 and just have it quickly explained within the first episode of the 4th season.
Of course, Karsten and Mark, now I wonder whether you agree with my updated assessment or if the thrid season did actually not "recover" for you.
Post by: DJ Doena on June 07, 2010, 09:59:19 AM
Post by: goodguy on June 07, 2010, 10:08:18 AM
Only the last episode had some developments again I didn'tz enjoy as much, mainly involving Logan this time (at first it was o.k., then they pushed it too far).
I wasn't too fond of the entire Castle thing, but I did like how they ended things with Logan (that cafeteria scene).
Post by: Achim on June 07, 2010, 03:22:06 PM
I consider S2 the weakest. S3 did recover a bit, but S1 remains my favorite.I am not sure whether I'd prefer the second half of S3 over S2, maybe. The first half of S3 (E1-E8) was definitely the worst to me.
Only the last episode had some developments again I didn'tz enjoy as much, mainly involving Logan this time (at first it was o.k., then they pushed it too far).
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I wasn't too fond of the entire Castle thingHaving seen several of this types of films 15 to 20 years ago, I have to agree here. IN that respect the idea of setting S4 4 years in the future really appealed to me. Too bad it never happened.
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but I did like how they ended things with Logan (that cafeteria scene).Obviously something I referred to as not liking in my post. I had a bit of a problem with logan beating up that Russian guy against Veronica's wish, like "let's do this because it's fun". I did, however, very much appreciate that he did apologize to Piz.
Post by: goodguy on June 07, 2010, 11:43:19 PM
Quotebut I did like how they ended things with Logan (that cafeteria scene).Obviously something I referred to as not liking in my post. I had a bit of a problem with logan beating up that Russian guy against Veronica's wish, like "let's do this because it's fun". I did, however, very much appreciate that he did apologize to Piz.
I never got the impression that was just for fun, on the contrary, he was deadly serious. That guy scared Veronica, which made Logan see even more red than he usually did when it came to Veronica. Remember, he beat up Piz before because of her and he smashed a police car to get in the cell with Mercer. The apology to Piz was great too, and Piz realized in that moment that he was the odd man out.
Post by: Achim on June 08, 2010, 06:33:44 AM
Post by: goodguy on June 09, 2010, 02:53:22 AM
I am not sure whether I'd prefer the second half of S3 over S2, maybe. The first half of S3 (E1-E8) was definitely the worst to me.
If I look at my episode ratings, only 3x02 sticks out of that batch as a bit sub-par (the "sociology" experiment). There are also a couple of mid-season episodes that fall into that category. The one that continously dropped in ratings to almost unwatchable on repeat viewings was 3x18 (with the kid soldier). I'm sure they meant well, but that was just... urgh. :yawn:
Post by: Dragonfire on September 17, 2010, 10:27:41 AM
Veronica Mars: The Complete Second Season
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Who knocked on Veronica's door at the end of Season 1: Duncan? Logan? Someone even more surprising? "I was hoping it would be you," the teen sleuth said. Now you can see who rated that rare Veronica smile, then uncover the newest mystery to envelop the town of Neptune. It begins when Veronica misses the bus – a school bus that minutes later plunges off a cliff into the Pacific. It may be a tragic accident. Or suicide. Or murder. It may (or may not) be tied to Lilly Kane's murder. But you know Veronica's on the case, even when other mysteries lead to danger and double crosses, even when her love life takes a couple of dives onto the pool deck, even when...well, wait and find out. Season 2: new characters, new revelations, same drop-dead dialogue and dead-on cool. Return to Mars. It's everything you like about Neptune.
Episodes:
1. Normal Is the Watchword
2. Driver Ed
3. Cheatty Cheatty Bang Bang
4. Green-Eyed Monster
5. Blast from the Past
6. Rat Saw God
7. Nobody Puts Baby in a Corner
8. Ahoy, Mateys!
9. My Mother, the Fiend
10. One Angry Veronica
11. Donut Run
12. Rashard and Wallace Go to White Castle
13. Ain't No Magic Mountain High Enough
14. Versatile Toppings
15. The Quick and the Wed
16. The Rapes of Graff
17. Plan B
18. I Am God
19. Nevermind the Buttocks
20. Look Who's Stalking
21. Happy Go Lucky
22. Not Pictured
My Thoughts
I enjoyed this season a lot overall, though it is difficult to like some of the characters at times. The story arc with the bus accident is interesting, but not as compelling as the one tied to the first season about Lilly's murder. The mystery aspect of the show still works well, though some of the mysteries do seem weaker. The plots are entertaining and interesting, though at times, things are brought up and then dropped without being fully resolved. I kept waiting for a few things to come up again. A couple of things tied back in to the resolution of Lilly's murder turn up again. I expected some of what happened, but I was also really surprised by a few other things.
It seems like things have to be complicated for Veronica. Just when something starts to calm down a bit, some other complication has to rear up. I don't always like how she handles things. She is basically a smart, likable character, but she does some incredibly stupid things at times. It is hard to like her in some episodes too. There really weren't consequences for some of what she did though.
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The relationships between the various characters are even more complicated I think..especially some of them. I didn't always care for some of the developments, though they did help keep the show entertaining. There is a bit of action in a few scenes as well as some violence. Some things that come up could be a bit disturbing to some people. The characters are still interesting overall even when they aren't always likable. More of the characters have issues to deal with and it does seem like things aren't as tied to Veronica even though she is still involved in much of what is going on.
The second season of the show is really well done and very entertaining. It is definitely worth watching.
I did get a review posted on Epinions.
Veronica Mars: The Complete Second Season (http://www0.epinions.com/review/mvie_mu-1162963/content_524426972804)
Post by: GSyren on May 25, 2014, 10:05:32 PM
I just finished season 1, and like some others I'm not too happy about the final episode. Not so much because the killer came out of left field, but because
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