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Title: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on January 13, 2013, 08:58:47 PM
As title. Come across something that brightens your day or something weird you just love then post it.

I love Amazon's one click ordering system. Stops having to go through an extra 8 seconds of screens. :laugh:
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: DSig on January 13, 2013, 09:16:46 PM
Seems like you have a bit of Ying and Yang (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJCqbZzuIlRsT0IzvvLvyq0HLrqV81AaNfpKwsJFL01lGME9J7Jg) thing going on from your post on the 'Hate' topic  :slaphead:

I really love this forum.  Being able to feel *free* to express opinions without sarcastic, close minded replies has been very refreshing.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Jimmy on January 13, 2013, 09:20:43 PM
As a hockey fan I sure love that one :thumbup:

Canadiens send Gomez home for the season; will likely be bought out over summer (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/01/13/canadiens-send-gomez-home_n_2467696.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-sports)

It's about time! Good riddance :clap:
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Piffi on January 14, 2013, 11:34:39 PM
Uhm, i love.. Traveling, good movies! (ofc)
Tattoos!  And sport. =)
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Blair on January 15, 2013, 07:51:09 AM
Tattoos!
Do you have many yourself or just generally love them?
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Piffi on January 15, 2013, 11:50:39 AM
Tattoos!
Do you have many yourself or just generally love them?


Depends on what you think are many.. :)

But i got a 'few' myself. I got a sleeve, a half sleeve. And a few other here and there
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on January 25, 2013, 12:23:24 AM
That we will get to vote to leave the EU in 2017. :yahoo:

I like what the EU represents, but it's a money pit for the UK, Germany and France.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Rogmeister on February 28, 2013, 12:08:47 AM
I love cats, especially ones that like me back like my cat Cindy (the one in my profile photo). 
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Jimmy on February 28, 2013, 03:29:48 AM
I like what the EU represents, but it's a money pit for the UK.
I'm sure you didn't say that in 1976 when the IMF came to save your country from total bankruptcy (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cabinetpapers/themes/imf-crisis.htm)...  :hmmmm:

See sometimes other countries can save your ass when you are in trouble and there is nothing shamefull for them to expect the same from the countries they help...

This is not a money pit but an escalator return...
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on February 28, 2013, 09:52:40 AM
The IMF is nothing to do with the EU.

Also, by money pit, I don't just mean by bailing everyone out,  but also the waste of money that are MEPs, the horrendous beaurocracy of EU laws, the cost of allowing people from other EU countries to come here and use our generous housing, disability and unemployment systems which are becoming stretched because of the EU not allowing us to keep people out or even kick out a lot of the criminals.

Also, I want to leave the EU so we can keep our national identity. Screw the EU.

This reminds me. Screw Argentina to. The Falklands are British. They were founded by us before Argentina was even a country and the people that live there want to remain British. We're even holding a referendum. I have no problem with spending gazillions to protect any part of the UK.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Jimmy on February 28, 2013, 10:34:22 AM
The IMF is nothing to do with the EU.
I think I know since I'm a graduate in finance and politics :whistle:

I have no problem with spending gazillions to protect any part of the UK.
Some nostalgy of the British Empire, the great period when the kingdom was free to steal the primary ressource of the colonies.... Funny because we continue to waste a fortune on that to support your monarchy even if we have cut the chain a long time ago.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on February 28, 2013, 12:20:22 PM
The IMF and the EU ARE two completely different things. I'm talking about how much it costs the UK to be a part of the EU which is currently £65billion a year - money that could be better spent here in the UK. Of course the IMF and the EU have a 'relationship' but you're confusing my issue.

I have nothing against handing out money as 'aid' to poorer countries for other things. In fact, only Denmark, Luxembourg and Sweden give a higher % of their GDP as aid than us. (we give 0.57% compared to USA 0.2%, Germany 0.38%, Canada 0.33%). All these countries have agreed to 0.7% by I think its 2016.

As for the other comment... I'll leave it as I'm not going to be drawn into a pointless argument about the British Empire because that isn't what this is about.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on February 28, 2013, 01:11:13 PM
Just one more thing to think about before you happily vote to leave the EU:

What do you think how many of the Non-European companies are going to stay in GB after you left the EU?
Currently they are there for two reasons:
1) Low taxes
2) Part of the common market

If informed correctly more than 50% of your current export goes to countries within the EU.
How much do you think it will be after the split?
How much do you think the totals will be after the split?

In fact the EU will easily survive the loss of GB, I'm not so sure if the same is correct for GB though.

BTW what is the source for your 65 Billion??
Germany is by far the largest Netto-payer and only had a total of 9.2 Billion in 2011 (This means payments-refunds, of course)
According to this statistics (http://www.bpb.de/nachschlagen/zahlen-und-fakten/europa/70580/nettozahler-und-nettoempfaenger) GB had a netto-payment of 5.57 Billion only in 2011

What do you think, how much would the EU be willing to pay if in exchange we wouldn't have clean out the mess of your financial district anymore?
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on February 28, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
Sorry, that should have been 6.5billion (which is what it is due to be this year). I'll respond to the rest later on!

In the meantime:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/23/article-0-0E7D3F1D00000578-723_468x240.jpg)
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: GSyren on February 28, 2013, 01:45:06 PM
"Not once, in 32 years, has Britain received more than it paid in"

Well, that seems like a healthy sign. If all countries has perfect economies, everyone would pay more than they receive. That's only natural since there are administrative costs to run EU.

Now, not all countries have perfect economies, so some receive more than they pay, while the ones with better economy receive less. At least that's the theory, I guess. One may disagree with how subsidies are distributed, or how money is spent on adminsitrating EU, but the simple fact that Britain (or whatever country) has paid more than it has received seems like a non-argument to me.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on February 28, 2013, 02:08:28 PM
Sorry, that should have been 6.5billion (which is what it is due to be this year). I'll respond to the rest later on!

In the meantime:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/23/article-0-0E7D3F1D00000578-723_468x240.jpg)

Fine statistics but it is limited to direct payments and revenues from/to EU.
What do you think the membership in the EU is worth?
Or in other words:
How many companies only reside in your country, because you are part of the EU?
How many tourists are coming only because it's so easy to travel from the continent to your island?
How much money is streaming into and through your country only because you are part of the common market?

Two of my customers planned to expand to the UK, for some reason they postponed these plans to 2019.
How many companies do you think are reacting in the same way?
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on February 28, 2013, 02:15:44 PM
but the simple fact that Britain (or whatever country) has paid more than it has received seems like a non-argument to me.

Actually it points out that we would have more money to spend on our own country if we didn't give it to the EU. ;)

One of the arguments from silence was whether we could survive without the EU. Of course we could - in fact I think we could flourish. We have a trade deficit with the EU (we import more than we export) so I'm sure we could negotiate a rate like Switzerland did. Even if we couldn't, the World Trade Organisation restricts this to 6% anyway so isn't a big enough issue to worry about (certainly not one we can be 'punished' with) - especially when we can cancel the external tariffs EU demands to global trade on imports. There are a lot of negative impacts leaving the EU will have, there's no argument, but as a whole, I think once we get over the initial bumps, we'll be just fine on our own.

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How many companies only reside in your country, because you are part of the EU?
How many tourists are coming only because it's so easy to travel from the continent to your island?
How much money is streaming into and through your country only because you are part of the common market?

How many companies base themselves in other EU countries to avoid paying taxes in the UK? Every time I buy a book for my kindle, it goes through Amazon Luxembourg to avoid taxes here because there they get charged just 3%. Swings and roundabouts.

The tourist question doesn't really suit IMO. We'll still be the same distance away, the travel links will still be the same - it might cost a little more, but that won't stop many.

How much money is streaming out because we are part of the common market? As I said, we lose a lot in EU tax loopholes that could effectively be closed.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on February 28, 2013, 02:20:48 PM
btw, Switzerland and Norway still have free trade with the EU despite not being member states. The UK could get this also due to the large deficit in us importing a lot more than we export (£3billion to Germany) so if you did impose tariffs, you'd be doing yourselves out of cash.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on February 28, 2013, 02:49:20 PM
The tourist question doesn't really suit IMO. We'll still be the same distance away, the travel links will still be the same - it might cost a little more, but that won't stop many.
Probably not, but what will stop many is that they suddenly have to show their passports again, are only allowed to buy one T-Shirt, 200 Cigarettes and a 1 liter-bottle of spirit if they want to avoid having to pay customs when returning to the EU. Always Remember: Schengen is for EU only (and for several reasons: Norway).

The "Never in 32 Years" argument is BTW that of the guy that canceled his health-insurance because he wasn't sick in 35 years.

Don't get me wrong, no one wants the part of the EU where bureaucrats-gone-berserk are trying to tell me what size a tomato has to be to be tomato.

But the idea of opening a small localised market in times of globalisation and believing that this might flourish is like opening a one man grocery-store next to a WalMart and hoping that WalMart is going to freeze in awe.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on February 28, 2013, 03:48:23 PM
btw, Switzerland and Norway still have free trade with the EU despite not being member states.

You know the differences between Norway, Switzerland and the UK?

Norway is an associated member of the EU, is paying 1.8 billion € to Bruxelles a year and they have oil.
Switzerland is a transit country and the EU needs the Free-Trade agreement to get the goods cheaply from and to Italy, on the other hand Switzerland has no industry that is likely to endanger Europe.

The UK has oil, but they mostly need it for themselves, they are not willing to pay anything, and are not needed as transit country, since Ireland is faster reached by ship.
So why exactly should one want a Free-Trade agreement with a country that wants to have the advantages, but is not willing to pay for them?
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on February 28, 2013, 04:18:43 PM
So why exactly should one want a Free-Trade agreement with a country that wants to have the advantages, but is not willing to pay for them?

Because we import from the EU far more than we export.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on February 28, 2013, 04:22:38 PM
Don't get me wrong, no one wants the part of the EU where bureaucrats-gone-berserk are trying to tell me what size a tomato has to be to be tomato.

This is essentially my biggest annoyance with the EU. The bureaucracy. I hate the fact that non-elected people are the ones in power.

If the vote was tomorrow, I'd vote to leave, but there are new legislations planned for the tax loopholes etc in 2015 so maybe my views will change before then. The individual countries need to have more say about their own states than the EU as a whole. Having an EU is a good thing, but it's poorly run and completely inadequate. Roll on later this year when we'll get half of Romania flocking to the UK, expecting housing and benefits.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on February 28, 2013, 04:33:09 PM
So why exactly should one want a Free-Trade agreement with a country that wants to have the advantages, but is not willing to pay for them?

Because we import from the EU far more than we export.
To quote an earlier post of you:
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The World Trade Organisation restricts this to 6% anyway so isn't a big enough issue to worry about
Not to forget that not a too small amount of the imports will be car parts from GM-Europe for Vauxhall which you'd have to import anyway.

What I mean is, no matter how hard you might wish for it, you are not part of local market only.
And the "Initial bumps" you mentioned may very well be inclined to ruin half of your industry.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on February 28, 2013, 04:58:02 PM
Roll on later this year when we'll get half of Romania flocking to the UK, expecting housing and benefits.

Man, you just gotta love "The Sun" with it's xenophobic stance.
If a German would make such a statement the same paper would have SS-Troopers on the cover.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time that foreigners flocked "to the UK, expecting housing" was when William The Conqueror came in and he, in fact, first burnt down most of the housings on his way.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: samuelrichardscott on February 28, 2013, 05:17:00 PM
Roll on later this year when we'll get half of Romania flocking to the UK, expecting housing and benefits.

Man, you just gotta love "The Sun" with it's xenophobic stance.
If a German would make such a statement the same paper would have SS-Troopers on the cover.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time that foreigners flocked "to the UK, expecting housing" was when William The Conqueror came in and he, in fact, first burnt down most of the housings on his way.

*pauses movie again* :laugh:

I'm not a reader of The Sun, or any tabloids for that matter but do feel like this country is losing its identity. I don't have anything against immigration, but there needs to be a cap so we can at least sustain it - employment wise, education wise and housing wise. I also don't think they should be allowed to claim any benefits and if they can't afford to stay here then that's okay, pack them in a bus and send them back home! I know that sounds harsh, but why should I work hard to see my taxes spent on people who have never given to this country (and I include many Brits in that too!)?

*As a side note, if I knew I could get a better life in a different country without having to contribute then you can be damn right I would do the same.

Just to further expand, the phrase I was look for is that I hate the "sense of entitlement" that comes with certain parts of being in the EU (and with the idiots who can't be arsed to work that are British).
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Piffi on February 28, 2013, 05:52:21 PM
As a Norwegian, i gotta ask Silence. What you mean by "Norway is an associated member of the EU, is paying 1.8 billion € to Bruxelles a year and they have oil." ?
What you mean by "an associated member of the EU" ? (I should prolly know that, but i dont  :-[ )
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on February 28, 2013, 06:50:53 PM
Check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway–European_Union_relations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway–European_Union_relations)

The problem with Norway is that even though a membership within the EU is either denied by the EU (1962 / 67) or Norway, they are closely intertwined with the other Scandinavian countries (Sweden, Denmark and Finland -> The former EFTA) which are EU members. Since the Scandinavian countries among each other already had free travel, it in fact was easier to treat Norway as "Closely Associated Member" then having to close down the borders to Sweden and Finland.

This association, in fact goes so far that until today Norway has transferred more than 6000 EU-bills into national law.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Piffi on February 28, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
Thank you Sir, i didnt know that..  :-[
But it was a interesting read.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Jimmy on March 11, 2013, 02:48:47 AM
While I re-do my profiles I update the cast / crew pictures also. Sometimes it isn't easy for the lesser know artist, but sometimes you find some nice surprise.

Just found a nice write-up about Monica Lane written by her daughter...

I don't know why but I feel nobody will know who she is... except maybe for the older member here.

(http://www.contentbureau.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/JARS_glamour1.jpg)

My Mother the Pop Icon (http://www.contentbureau.com/blog/off-hours/my-mother-the-pop-icon)
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Blair on June 10, 2013, 05:40:09 AM
I love when a good baseball game goes into extra innings.

A game that normally lasts 9 innings ran for 17 tonight resulting in the winning team's school to head for the national championship for the first time in 25 years. It is only their second time to make it that far.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: Blair on August 01, 2013, 11:06:23 PM
I love that we finally got a mayor with some sense and personality to push decisions in a reasonable direction... the second in the 15 years I have lived here (the other being the existing mayor when I moved here whose term ended soon-after.)

He won by a landslide (widest margin I've ever seen) against the two other candidates combined, one which was the previous mayor, and so far I have seen for myself more positive moves in only these few months than I've even read about by the previous mayors.
Title: Re: What do you love?
Post by: VirtualScot on August 24, 2013, 04:19:48 AM
Wow have no looked in on this site in a long time. Just like to say what you have witnessed in this thread is why us Scots will be leaving the UK soon.