Post by: Najemikon on March 24, 2010, 10:20:24 PM
5 out of 5
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Dave Lizewski (Aaron Johnson) is a comic book geek who wonders why no-one tries to be like the heroes he reads about. He soon finds out the painful truth when he decides to try, as Kick-Ass, and ends up with vicious crime boss Frank D’Amico (Mark Strong) out for his head.
Since the superhero genre revolution took off properly with Spider-Man, mainstream cinema seems to have been aimed purely at kids, with even Die Hard 4.0 and Terminator: Salvation retooling once adult franchises for teens. Maybe 2010 will see that put right with The Losers, The Expendables and The A-Team all to look forward to and hopefully not pulling punches. The irony is the bar has already been set by a superhero movie! Kick-Ass, based on Mark Millar’s hilarious comic, is astonishingly violent and ready-made to cause some healthy controversy. Yet it is equally entertaining and has bags of substance. Despite being a parody of superheroes, it feels fresh and original throughout. This is Shaun of the Dead for costumed freaks and similarly destined to be a modern geek classic. The trailer sets you up without revealing just how layered the film is.
It starts like a typical teen superhero story, with Dave and his friends wondering why no-one tries to be a super-hero. One more mugging later, Dave is determined to prove it can be done and so dresses up to go out and make a difference. He is quickly brought down to earth with a shocking failure in his first half-arsed attempt to stop car thieves. Nevertheless, he ends up with dead nerve-endings and a metal pins (Wolverine?) throughout his body meaning he can take a beating. So he can’t resist trying again and through no small amount of blind luck, ends up on the Internet as Kick-Ass, in the first of several sharp digs at modern media (later a TV news report has to end a live broadcast because it is too shocking, despite it being uncensored on the web!). Fame and cheap merchandising quickly follow, despite him being nothing more than an enthusiastic idiot.
That brings him to the fascinated attention of a two proper, highly skilled heroes who keep a low profile at odds with their costumes. Big Daddy is a Batman figure, possibly harder actually, while his 12 year old highly trained daughter Hit Girl is simply like nothing you have ever seen before. Your jaw will drop at the petite foul-mouthed killer who can clear a room of thugs without breaking a sweat! Her fight scenes are incredibly inventive and bloody, without resorting to the silliness of Wanted, also based on a Mark Millar comic, and the finale is simply glorious. Matthew Vaughn brilliantly handles all the threads with an inventive and confident style, featuring an animated comic sequence and one fantastic moment from a first person shooter perspective, yet never loses focus of the central theme.
While it is very funny, the witty story, full of comic book references, also has a conscience and a clear sense of mortality and bears comparison with Alan Moore’s Watchmen. The violence isn’t really gratuitous (well, not much!) because it forces both Dave and the audience to realise the sobering cost of what he’s trying to do. This is supported by a great cast of well defined characters, anchored by Mark Strong’s Frank and Nicholas Cage. Normally he brings a dose of insanity to relatively normal characters, but here he softens Big Daddy, who is clearly nuts, with subtle honesty. Cage has been turning into a self-parody for years, but he is superb here and gracious in his performance alongside sparky Chloe Moretz as Hit Girl. That Superbad’s McLovin, Christopher Mintz-Plasse, as Red Mist and Aaron Johnson as Dave aren’t lost in the mix is testament to both their performances and the finely balanced plot. There’s even room for a sub-plot as Dave pretends to be gay to get close to dream girl, Lyndsey Fonseca.
For me the defining superhero films are Superman, The Dark Knight and The Incredibles. Kick-Ass can easily sit alongside them. I’m just not sure that the teenagers are going to be happy settling for Tony Stark, because Iron Man 2 is already looking dated!
Post by: Tom on March 24, 2010, 11:11:21 PM
Post by: goodguy on March 24, 2010, 11:49:14 PM
Kick-Ass
Doesn't happen very often, but yours is the first review I read. So, thanks.
Your jaw will drop at the petite foul-mouthed killer who can clear a room of thugs without breaking a sweat!
I just hope she has enough screen time. Who cares about that green guy?
For me the defining superhero films are Superman, The Dark Knight and The Incredibles. Kick-Ass can easily sit alongside them.
Such an enthusiastic review, why associate it with boring movies? Well, except for The Incredibles. I skimmed through some IMDb reviews and someone called it a cross between Spider Man and Kill Bill - I likewise hope he is wrong on the first part.
EDIT:
This review pretty much sums up what I'm afraid of:
http://www.fosteronfilm.com/misc/superhero/kick-ass.htm (http://www.fosteronfilm.com/misc/superhero/kick-ass.htm)
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The real flaw of the film is that it leaves Hit-Girl. Every moment with Dave and his high school friends is a moment you'll be longing for Hit-Girl. Does her screen time make up for the general amusing mediocrity of the rest of the movie. Oh yes, many times over.
Post by: Najemikon on March 25, 2010, 01:10:05 AM
Kick-Ass
Doesn't happen very often, but yours is the first review I read. So, thanks.
This was the reason I started the blog. SeeFilmFirst could offer preview tickets on the understanding you review the film. So for the first time, I've got the jump on a release date! :thumbup:
Your jaw will drop at the petite foul-mouthed killer who can clear a room of thugs without breaking a sweat!
I just hope she has enough screen time. Who cares about that green guy?
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EDIT:
This review pretty much sums up what I'm afraid of:
http://www.fosteronfilm.com/misc/superhero/kick-ass.htm (http://www.fosteronfilm.com/misc/superhero/kick-ass.htm)QuoteThe real flaw of the film is that it leaves Hit-Girl. Every moment with Dave and his high school friends is a moment you'll be longing for Hit-Girl. Does her screen time make up for the general amusing mediocrity of the rest of the movie. Oh yes, many times over.
I can't agree with that review and he's making the common mistake of saying "I like that bit, so I wanted more and it was a bad film because there wasn't more". Just shows a misunderstanding of the story. Dave ("Kick-Ass") is the story. Hit Girl and Big Daddy work because they support his arc. If it was the other way around it would be predictable. Fun, but meaningless. Go in with an open mind and it might surprise you... but she gets plenty of screentime, don't worry about that! If anything, I was wishing for more Big Daddy; Nic Cage is awesome in this film.
You could say Kick-Ass is the plot, but those two drive it. He is generic to some extent, which is why that story impressed me. And remember it is a comedy and he provides the biggest laughs (if you let him) while BD and HG are also funny, but also give it heart.
That's what I meant about the trailer. There are more layers to what seemed a pretty sown up premise.
For me the defining superhero films are Superman, The Dark Knight and The Incredibles. Kick-Ass can easily sit alongside them.
Such an enthusiastic review, why associate it with boring movies? Well, except for The Incredibles. I skimmed through some IMDb reviews and someone called it a cross between Spider Man and Kill Bill - I likewise hope he is wrong on the first part.
Enthusiastic because it was so much more than it needed to be. Heck, if it was just about Hit Girl, I'd have rated it high, but the balance makes it special. Well, for one, I don't find them boring. ;) For another, they represent for me the building blocks of the comic book superhero [film] genre. Superman for the fantasy and hero-worship; The Dark Knight for the obsession and reflection of the characters and for recognising the inherent absurdity of the stories; and The Incredibles for the sheer quality of pure bubble-gum entertainment. Kick-Ass takes all of that and adds something of its own.
The link to both Spider-Man and Kill Bill is valid, but I think misleading, which is why I didn't mention them. Kill Bill is exploitive violence, while Kick Ass is more organic to the narrative. It's in your face, but brief, efficient and important to the story, while Tarantino was lingering on it as a mirror of the characters. In other words, Big Daddy may have taken on The Crazy 88, but grenades would have been involved to get them done with faster! Not honourable swordplay. But there is the idea that Kill Bill is a clever twist on the superhero, so fair enough.
The Spidey link is so obvious that was another reason to ignore. But don't be concerned. It's used to subvert the clichés, not to ride in on ready-made set-ups. The start of Kick-Ass is geeky kid, failing to fit in, gets a reason to be a hero. It plays on what we know about Peter Parker's arc. And then makes it very clear that -powers or not- a high school kid dealing with ruthless drug lords is very, very far out of his depth.
Post by: snowcat on March 25, 2010, 08:48:47 AM
I read the comic when it started coming out in ...uhh... 2008?
Its a great story and I admit the film looks true to the story and very funny.
Jon, how can you not consider Spider-man defining in the superhero genre? I think even people who are not fans of the film or the series have to admit that it started something major for super hero movies, yeah it may be obvious but it still happened. I know you said its aimed at kids but think back. The original movie was a 12, I wouldn't say it was aimed at the kids it grew to be aimed at.
I remember when Spider-man was released there was up roar about it being a 12, it was the reason 12A was created....Infact, I was in Norfolk at the time of release and the town I was in was one of the few that chose to rate the film PG to get kids in.
...You mentioned Terminator Savation... well, I think that was a ploy to get money from merchandise... I remember having Robocop toys when I was about 4... (I also remember watching it continuously as a child...I was strange) Robocop is an 18! gone are the times when you can sell toys from an 18 rated movie to a 4 year old kid.... :p now are the times when you can remove the swearing and blood, release a billion toys and make a bucket load of cash of those poor little kids who beg there mum for the latest GI Joe super awesome helicopter :P
(If this is makes no sense, I just woke up -_-...I need to stop using the Internet when I just wake up.)
Post by: Najemikon on March 25, 2010, 02:55:02 PM
Again, I'm not saying the Spidey's aren't good (although part 3 is bloody awful), but I just think those 3 or 4 are more important.
I do remember the fuss over certification, but that is a PG film just for one scene (Peter fighting without his mask towards the end stops it being fantasy violence and just plain old violence).
Marketing of films like Robocop or Terminator hasn't changed, but they knew what they were doing years ago. I was 9 when Terminator came out and I remember being desperate to see it. It was like a Holy Grail to a kid! Now, there's none of that. Everyone just queues up to see the same generic retreads. There's no anticipation. It's rubbish.
Post by: Jimmy on March 25, 2010, 04:52:25 PM
Marketing of films like Robocop or Terminator hasn't changed, but they knew what they were doing years ago. I was 9 when Terminator came out and I remember being desperate to see it. It was like a Holy Grail to a kid! Now, there's none of that.I was more than 9 of course, but the big difference at this time was that the movies were always movies and not just product of the week made to earn 50 millions in their first weekend to be forgot a couple of weeks later. I always sound like a broken record when I say thing like that, but it's true the real cinema is dead since more than 15 years... All the heart and soul of the industry disapear when the CGI appeared, untalented wannabes began to appear in everything, the MTV editing took more and more place, talented directors were put on the side to be replace by studio hack, script began to be copy&paste job, the last drive-in closed its door, the independant cinema closed one after another and so on....
Post by: Najemikon on March 25, 2010, 08:05:11 PM
That's why I referenced Iron Man. I liked the first one and look forward to the second, but it's unlikely to have the punch of Kick-Ass.
Post by: Tom on March 26, 2010, 10:38:26 PM
Post by: Najemikon on March 26, 2010, 10:43:03 PM
Still a pointless remake for people who can't read. ;)
Post by: Tom on March 27, 2010, 07:43:18 PM
According to the trailers of the movie adaption I have seen, I think the movie could be a good adaption of the comic.
Though I am guessing they changed some things for the movie. Going by the trailers I am guessing that Hit-Girl has a bit of a different character. I wouldn't expect the movie Hit-Girl I know from the trailers be at the same point at the end like she was in the comic.
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I wonder how much the film-makers knew about the comic's ending (as the last chapter has only been released recently as far as I know). I also wonder if all the pop-culture references survived (like Kick-Ass comparing his the view the people had of him in the beginning with Heroes' season 1 and the current state with Heroes' season 2).
Post by: Najemikon on March 27, 2010, 08:00:37 PM
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There are a lot of references, but I don't remember a Heroes gag. Definitely a lot though and some are very clever.
Post by: Tom on March 27, 2010, 08:07:12 PM
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I think I know what you mean. At least there is something in the comic:
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Post by: Najemikon on March 27, 2010, 09:10:36 PM
That's it.
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Post by: Critter on April 13, 2010, 04:13:13 AM
Especially when it comes to Big Daddy as in the comics he was a
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I am so thankful now for the fantastic Big Daddy that Nic Cage delivered.
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Post by: Achim on April 13, 2010, 06:01:39 AM
I plan to watch the film on Saturday, so there would still be time...
Post by: Critter on April 13, 2010, 06:16:37 AM
Post by: Achim on April 13, 2010, 06:21:36 AM
BTW, I listened to an interview with mark Millar the other day. He confirmed that the writers asked him about every change they wanted to make to the story and that he agreed, seeing how it would improve a translation to the screen. Seeing certain things written (and drawn) is one thing, haveing them on the screen is another, he said. He basically confirmed Kick-Ass 2, which would be due after another comic book adapation of his, also with Matthew Vaughn.
Post by: Critter on April 13, 2010, 06:36:51 AM
Post by: Achim on April 13, 2010, 06:42:07 AM
Post by: lovemunkey187 on April 13, 2010, 01:00:50 PM
The thought of Kick-Ass 2 worries me. I just can't see how they could possibly top the first one, which means it could be a big let down after the original.
I don't think that you need to worry too much.
Mark Millar is so creative that sameness shouldn't be a problem.
Post by: Najemikon on April 13, 2010, 09:01:59 PM
Jon! I just finished reading all 8 of the books in the comic series and damn am I glad they made changes from the books to the film.
Especially when it comes to Big Daddy as in the comics he was a.(click to show/hide)
I am so thankful now for the fantastic Big Daddy that Nic Cage delivered.
Oh and alsoI would love to see what the Daily Mail would have to say about that if it was in the film haha.(click to show/hide)
That's interesting, but kind of what I expected. Mark Millar is a British writer and our comics are exploitive like that and like to challenge, so it isn't surprising that...
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See also the incredible Preacher, by Irish Garth Ennis...
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Or History of Violence by John Wagner (who also created Dredd). I think it's safe to say 2000ad is responsible, having given writers like Wagner and Ennis a platform for such ideas, even though the tone is acceptable for a wider age range than the above examples.
Judge Dredd is the epitome of this balance between pathos, drama and full-on absurd violence. Please, god of movies, ask Wagner to write a new Dredd film!
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It's part of the reason I enjoy British comics a lot more than American; we've got balls! :devil: Frank Miller's style I think owes a lot to people like Ennis.
There are few times this works purely as a film and it's one of the reasons I loved Kick-Ass, because it makes enough changes to make it viable and honest as a screenplay. I'm amazed there are such clear differences despite them being developed at the same time.
Post by: goodguy on April 15, 2010, 05:08:44 PM
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100414/REVIEWS/100419986 (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100414/REVIEWS/100419986)
Post by: snowcat on April 15, 2010, 06:03:54 PM
You know, so many of my friends have watched this and said "the trailer made it look like a comedy, it wasn't funny"
I always say "RESEARCH THE STORY"
I also hear alot of "the comic ruins the movie".... Id love someone to explain that one to me.
Ive tried to keep out of this thread because I can see an argument arising... my views are dramatically different to many people on here about this film.
I think Ebert was a little harsh on the movie though.
Post by: goodguy on April 15, 2010, 07:32:08 PM
I think Ebert was a little harsh on the movie though.
As I haven't seen the movie yet, I can't be sure, but I don't think I will agree with him either. I love reading his reviews anyway, though. I suppose, he was trying to make a point, but I'm not sure what it is. He has written favorable reviews for ultraviolent and offensive movies (for example, he gave Shoot 'Em Up 3.5 stars). Maybe it is really the kid-thing that got him riled up.
Post by: Najemikon on April 15, 2010, 09:47:18 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-1262948/Kick-Ass-Dont-fooled-hype--This-crime-cinema-twisted-cynical-revels-abuse-childhood.html
This guy is a hack at the best of times, but actually, he starts off with some decent points, if you don't like the violence. But he really loses it with the ridiculous links to paedophilia. :hysterical:
I like Ebert's reviews too, Matthias. It doesn't matter if you don't agree with a critic of any sort, you can still enjoy and respect their opinion and I certainly do his. However, he does make what is tantamount to a mistake in there as he dismisses the film as just being about kids trying to be superheroes and is confused that Hit-Girl is a kid successful at what she does, because that surely undermines the point of the story? But the point is in the irony that Hit-Girl and Big Daddy are good at what they do yet keep it under cover, despite the absurd costumes. They aren't normal. Dave, to a certain extent, is normal and is making a fool of himself.
Post by: Tom on April 15, 2010, 11:49:39 PM
Post by: Critter on April 16, 2010, 12:25:38 AM
Post by: Tom on April 16, 2010, 12:36:23 AM
Post by: Critter on April 16, 2010, 12:44:06 AM
I read Eberts review yesterday, I didn't mind that he hated it becuase he at least wrote reasonable reasons why, it was understandable. Mr Tookey on the other hand... I don't know what film he was seeing becuase I certainly didn't see an 11 year-old "sexually aggressive" character in the film I saw. And the fact that he did see one makes me hope to God he never has children.
Post by: Tom on April 16, 2010, 12:54:45 AM
Post by: Critter on April 16, 2010, 12:59:15 AM
Post by: Achim on April 16, 2010, 06:30:23 AM
As I haven't seen the movie yet, I can't be sure, but I don't think I will agree with him either. I love reading his reviews anyway, though.Kind of how I stand with Mark Kermode, a reviewer from the BBC. Maybe you should give it a try to listen to him. It's a weekly show, running approx. 90-100min, available via the BBC website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/kermode).
They was a scene with Hit-Girl in the movie, where I was reminded of Gunslinger Girl::o Awesome! I might want to find this one. Is it
I am very excited, I will probably see it tomorrow :yahoo:
Post by: Najemikon on April 16, 2010, 05:20:17 PM
Mr Tookey on the other hand... I don't know what film he was seeing becuase I certainly didn't see an 11 year-old "sexually aggressive" character in the film I saw. And the fact that he did see one makes me hope to God he never has children.
Tookey has since followed up his review to reiterate his opinion and offer why he has such deep knowledge of paedophilia in film:
http://www.movie-film-review.com/devFilm.asp?ID=15578
If it's true (and trust me, our tabloids do print outright lies) then he has been to a darker place than most of us, but that just proves he's blinded and misses the real point of a film like this.
They was a scene with Hit-Girl in the movie, where I was reminded of Gunslinger Girl::o Awesome!
:o +1
Post by: Tom on April 16, 2010, 05:39:22 PM
They was a scene with Hit-Girl in the movie, where I was reminded of Gunslinger Girl::o Awesome! I might want to find this one. Is ita movie,a short series or a long series...? I saw soime stuff is available at Amazon, in Blu-ray even (e.g. Season 1), but it seems a bit daunting to figure out what to get...?
What you see listed as season 1 is the first series (13 episodes). This is really high quality stuff in my opinion. A few years later a second series "Gunslinger Girl: Il Tetriano" (sp?) aka "Gunslinger Girl: Season 2" was released by different studio. I haven't watched it completely, but of what I have seen, the animation quality has dropped significally. Also I don't like the new character design and voice actors.
The first season stands very well stand-alone. It covers the best part of the manga series (first two volumes). After that I feel the manga isn't as interesting anymore.
If you liked this little footage, I think you will like the rest of the (first) series.
Trailer:
Opening Credits:
And here a fan video I stumbled across in the past which has a good selection of scenes:
Post by: Jimmy on April 16, 2010, 06:04:06 PM
"When people like this are insulting a critic whose opinion should at least be respected, I reckon it’s the critic who is on the right track."
Post by: Najemikon on April 16, 2010, 06:57:23 PM
Post by: Jimmy on April 16, 2010, 07:55:35 PM
But if I get it and hate it I will hunt you down and force you to offer me a Guiness in your friendly pub :tease:
Post by: snowcat on April 16, 2010, 09:56:23 PM
I literally have no idea where to begin when I think about this film. So I started reading Kick-ass in 2008 when it began, I enjoyed the series but due to the repeated delays I got a bit bored and lost track a few times, meaning I had to re-read issues numerous times.... Now, some people enjoy doing that... I don't I like to read something once. anyway im side tracking.
Unfortunately it seems I have to disagree with quite alot of people and pretty much say, well... I kind of don't like the film at all. and whilst I can't exactly pin point what it was I did not like about the film... let me explain a few things about why I did not like it.
Maybe after the 5 billionth (I exaggerate) read of Kick-ass I had high expectations that were not met, I can't say there are many comic turned movies I enjoy again im getting side tracked.
There were minor changes, ok ... sometimes these are good... sometimes they are bad... I felt like they left things out I enjoyed in the comic... stuff I wanted to see.
alot of criticism of this film seems to come from the violence, I don't care about violence, I laughed all the way through Hostel II. Others mention the language... again, doesn't bother me...watching children swear is the highlight of many of those "kids do the funniest things" shows... children that are younger then 11.
So, don't get me wrong, I like the story and really thought it was directed well! and I think this will have a "Watchmen" effect on the comic industry. but. and this is a big but. I did not enjoy the film. the best parts were in the trailers, and sometimes the acting seemed off.
Now ive always seen Kick-ass as a parody, and so I can't let it sit as a superhero movie the same way I can't let "Superhero movie" sit as one.... Unfortunately I have to completely disagree with you Jon, I don't think it is defining of the superhero genre, I think it mocks a genre that starting to look dated. Maybe Kick-ass will be the kick in the arse the genre needs to more forward, purely because of its tone and ability to get such a... well, random audience... people I would not imagine to like this film have ended up loving it and those I thought would love it don't like it.
I think that the comic should be read before watching the film. I don't think you can respect the comic or enjoy it as much with this film in the back of your mind.... BUT I think i you read the comic and then watch the film it will not have the same effect.
...anyway, long rant over.
Post by: Tom on April 16, 2010, 10:06:49 PM
Now after watching the movie I read the comic the second time and I must admit, I enjoyed the comic even more than the first time around.
Post by: Najemikon on April 16, 2010, 11:41:44 PM
Part of the reason I respect this film so much is that it isn't beholden to the comic. The comic didn't come first so they are separate interpretations that support each other. Importantly, that means Kick-Ass was designed as a film from the start.
I've just ordered the book and I expect, being a comics fan anyway, that I will enjoy it a great deal. But enjoy it more or less than the film? Doubtful. I'll see them as separate experiences because unlike any other adaptation ever in this genre, the film doesn't need the book to exist.
That doesn't stop you reading the book and having expectations though. Emma, I have to disagree, but because of the way they were developed, I think it is advisable to see the film first. But then I know how I deal with such things; contrary to what people may think, I'm not a fan-boy, even remotely! :P If something doesn't work, I move on.
That happens so often with comic book adaptations. Take almost any of them: Spidey, X-Men, Iron Man, Daredevil, Dredd. Their value as entertaining films varies, their value against the original stories does not. Compared to the originals, they are all worthless crap.
Every one of them exists in some weird, screwed up movie-logic world that trivialises and demeans the characters by taking years of development and stuffing it into one story arc in a cynical attempt to capture fans' imaginations. Spider-Man 3 is the worst for this, while X-Men 2 handles it brilliantly.
I was very specific in my review of what I considered the defining samples. Superman had such reverence for the character and it's history, that it erred on the side of ambiguity and created a viable alternative to the comic and created a new genre; The Dark Knight did something similar, a massive improvement on Tim Burton's versions that would flippantly write-off iconic characters in single doses (even with the sad death of Heath Ledger, the Joker lives on within Nolan's version, which is how it should be). Additionally, Nolan's film seemed to me to be the first comic book movie that could be adapted back to comic form and be accepted as canon.
One reason I particularly considered this defining is that it is clearly a parody, except when it isn't. ;) The narrative is very clever because it parodies an aged genre, as you say, but it's characters see it as a parody too! They're in on the joke. Until that is, it all goes wrong. That's when the film stops being a parody and becomes something new and fresh.
I've been reading comics for years and Spider-Man never made any of my friends understand why I read "kids" magazines. But Kick-Ass is making them look at other graphic novels. The reason is clear; Spidey is meaningless blockbuster crap that you can enjoy and forget. Kick-Ass gets under your skin. I repeat, Iron Man has one heck of a bar to reach now.
Post by: Critter on April 16, 2010, 11:48:29 PM
http://www.movie-film-review.com/devFilm.asp?ID=15578 (http://www.movie-film-review.com/devFilm.asp?ID=15578)
Post by: Najemikon on April 16, 2010, 11:51:14 PM
But yes, it is very odd.
By the way, Jimmy, any time you're passing, I'll buy you a bloody Guinness whether you like the film or not. :cheers:
Post by: Critter on April 16, 2010, 11:52:56 PM
Post by: Najemikon on April 16, 2010, 11:55:10 PM
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Post by: Critter on April 17, 2010, 12:00:28 AM
This part in particular got to me.., "The fans have clearly failed to spot the phallic symbolism in the opening scene between them, where he is educating her for later life and deliberately desensitising her by shooting at her with a gun - though I’d have thought the sexual implication should be clear, even to non-Freudians."
I mean for Christ sake's. You would think Big Daddy was pointing a penis at Mindy by the way he goes on. It's a wonder to me sometimes how idiots get the right to express their opinions in published works.
Post by: Najemikon on April 17, 2010, 12:13:59 AM
Thing is The Daily Mail have an anti-Twitter/Internet policy at the moment: A few months ago, Stephen Gately of Boyzone died suddenly and everyone was very shocked. Essentially he died from adult cot-death. Despite this being a documented and very real condition, and despite there being no other evidence, The Daily Mail published an editorial by Jan Moir who basically dismissed Gately as a drug-taking homosexual and inferred that everyone knows that the way gay people live contributed to his death. :-X Obviously this was in awful taste, literally the day after the news broke, and it seemed like every celebrity on Twitter queued up to give the paper and Jan a good kicking. They weren't prepared to deal with this new media revolution and responded in the only way they knew how, which was to publish a special on idiot celebrities who waste all their time being boring on Twitter! :laugh:
Post by: snowcat on April 17, 2010, 12:19:18 AM
Post by: Critter on April 17, 2010, 12:24:27 AM
You may have seen this before but I thought it was hilarious and very well done so I will post it just in case.
Post by: Jimmy on April 17, 2010, 12:40:00 AM
Post by: Najemikon on April 17, 2010, 12:47:54 AM
I haven't seen that before! It's great. Jimmy, I think our tabloids are fairly unique. In the USA they have the National Enquirer, but everyone tends to accept it's rubbish and doesn't take it seriously.
But here in the UK, The Sun and The Mirror seem to be the most popular, instead of the serious papers like The Telegraph and The Guardian. While The Sun/The Mirror aren't as bad as the Mail, they will blatantly lie to sell papers. But yes, in answer to your question, we do have quality reporting as well. It's just most people seem to prefer this sort of crap.
They aim for sensationalism and get people fired up so the real issues are lost in hyperbole, especially on immigration. The Times might tell us that we're letting in too many immigrants and it will cost us in taxes and public services; The Daily Mail will happily tell us that Britain is being overrun by knife wielding maniacs hiding on trucks and we're all going to murdered in our beds, before all our jobs are taken by Poles. It's absolute crap. We do have issues with how many asylum seekers we should let in, but we aren't being attacked!
You might be aware of the period in the 80s where some films were held as "Video Nasties" and banned. Child's Play was the most notorious. Well, revisionist history now seems to agree that actually, very few films were banned after all and it was all bollocks cooked up by The Daily Mail. Their "BAN THIS SICK FILTH" headline has become the slogan for people taking the mickey out of them... ::) For all the arguments over censorship, I actually think the BBFC should be commended for keeping a sensible head on throughout that period.
Post by: Najemikon on April 17, 2010, 12:58:44 AM
HAs anyone read Scott Pilgrim? The trailer for the film was on before Kick Ass, and I'm curious as to what the books are like.The thought of Kick-Ass 2 worries me. I just can't see how they could possibly top the first one, which means it could be a big let down after the original.
I don't think that you need to worry too much.
Mark Millar is so creative that sameness shouldn't be a problem.
I got so caught up in the other stuff, I forgot to quote this so it didn't get lost.
I like the look of Scott Pilgrim, but I haven't read the books. Something about them kept making me disregard them, but I know they are hugely popular.
Post by: Jimmy on April 17, 2010, 01:15:46 AM
Same thing with the movie banning... Very few movies are banned here, the only thing I can think of is the Bumfight serie (of course child pornography is banned like anywhere in the world). We are really permissive, sometimes I feel that we are like the Scandinavian countries on this (but the federal governement had a list with many title that are available in many store wich is kind of funny). As for the video nasty list some of the titles included like The Boogeyman, Dead & Buried, Don't Go in the Woods, Don't Go Near the Park, The Evil Dead, The Funhouse or Night of the Bloody Apes (just to name few) make no sense to me. But I was never a big fan of the "think about the children" mentallity...
Post by: Najemikon on April 17, 2010, 09:07:31 AM
Post by: dfmorgan on April 17, 2010, 12:43:27 PM
Post by: Najemikon on April 17, 2010, 03:51:05 PM
Post by: dfmorgan on April 17, 2010, 07:31:16 PM
I do dislike their constant harping on about video nasties etc., especially everytime the Bulger case comes up and they harp on about the fact one of the fathers had rented Child's Play 3 even though there never was any proof or evidence that either of the boys had seen it, but generally find the news reporting to be acceptable. I have tried many newspapers over the years but never one that made me want to stop the Mail.
However I do like Mr. Tookey's reviews. If he dislikes a film then usually I will enjoy it ;D.
Dave
Post by: snowcat on April 17, 2010, 08:05:05 PM
Post by: Najemikon on April 17, 2010, 08:57:48 PM
Post by: DJ Doena on April 17, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
Why not? They're running a business and, tabloids aside, we desperately need professional journalism on the web.
I've never started reading a newspaper. Since I'm not a morning person I awake at some point after my second cup of coffee - when I'm already at work. Since I work on a computer all day I regularily check some news sites online.
There are only two magazines I'm reading. One is Der Spiegel (http://www.spiegel.de/international/), a weekly magazine with background analyses of politics and the economy and such. The other is the c't, a bi-weekly computer magazine.
Post by: snowcat on April 17, 2010, 10:05:33 PM
Why not? They're running a business and, tabloids aside, we desperately need professional journalism on the web.
They might be running a business... but how many indy newspapers are on the net? most of them have pretty good reporters ;) if they are gonna charge me to read the Guardian then I will stick to the indy sites...
Post by: Najemikon on April 17, 2010, 10:16:50 PM
Post by: Achim on April 18, 2010, 07:21:46 AM
I was very impressed/glad to see a proper film going around those exciting bits we knew from the trailers. Sure, the trailer is what got me excited, but 90min of that would probably have missed the mark by a mile. My friend was also very wary of kids being portrayed as violent (trailer), but in the context of the film it all made sense and he enjoyed the film as well.
Following recommendation from here I had waited with reading the comic. May want to do that now quickly and then watch the film once more in the cinema. I don't get that a lot, but leaving the cinema I had the immediate urge to see it again; last time this happened with The Dark Knight...
Kick-Ass:
Post by: Najemikon on April 18, 2010, 03:33:24 PM
Here's an interesting link. Jonathan Ross has written a comic called Turf which sounds pretty good. Obviously his missus is Jane Goldman, who wrote the screenplay for Kick-Ass, and apparently, Matthew Vaughn is showing interest in developing it.
http://downthetubescomics.blogspot.com/2010/04/vaughn-to-jonathan-ross-turf.html (http://downthetubescomics.blogspot.com/2010/04/vaughn-to-jonathan-ross-turf.html)
Post by: Tom on April 18, 2010, 07:20:31 PM
Following recommendation from here I had waited with reading the comic. May want to do that now quickly and then watch the film once more in the cinema.
I am eager to hear your thoughts on the comic.
Post by: Critter on April 19, 2010, 12:19:23 AM
Post by: Tom on April 19, 2010, 12:24:31 AM
Post by: Dragonfire on April 19, 2010, 12:42:38 AM
Post by: Critter on April 19, 2010, 01:08:22 AM
I don't trust IMDb's Top250 shortly after a movie came out. In the beginning all the fans are giving it high marks. After a few weeks it will get a more balanced rating. Though I hope that Kick-Ass will keep a strong rating as I think it deserves it.
Oh yes there's always a great spike when a movie first comes out. I love seeing how high each movie gets in the ranking though before things settle and it starts to drop down in numbers again.
And Marie, I never really expected it to make too much, what with it being R rated cuts out a lot of audience who could see it. And also the fact that Carmike cinemas across America aren't showing it would take a toll.
Post by: Dragonfire on April 19, 2010, 01:10:12 AM
Post by: Critter on April 19, 2010, 01:16:40 AM
Apperntly it's a chain of about 300 cinemas across the state and none of them are going to be showing Kick-Ass.
Post by: Dragonfire on April 19, 2010, 01:19:57 AM
Post by: Critter on April 19, 2010, 01:22:30 AM
Post by: Jimmy on April 19, 2010, 03:53:29 AM
I don't trust IMDb's Top250 shortly after a movie came out.To be honest the rating system of imdb worth nothing since a lot of people cast their vote without watching the films at all. I won't give any exemples but you know already the ones who pop in my head while I write this ;)
Post by: Tom on April 19, 2010, 08:20:09 PM
Next Friday and the following Tuesday.
Post by: Critter on April 20, 2010, 12:11:15 AM
I have already planned two further visits to watch Kick-Ass :)
Next Friday and the following Tuesday.
:thumbup:
I'm seeing it this Friday with my sister and that will make it my fourth viewing. It's just one of those films, slightly addictive. Although I am one who is known for repeat viewings anyway but I just can't seem to stop with this one.
Post by: Najemikon on April 20, 2010, 01:29:24 AM
Post by: Critter on April 20, 2010, 02:27:14 AM
Post by: Jimmy on April 20, 2010, 02:40:15 AM
Post by: Achim on April 20, 2010, 02:43:45 AM
I think somethings wrong with my computer. I can't see what Jon posted at all. I can't see a picture or any writing, it's just showing up on my screen as if her posted a blank reply.That can happens if your browser has trouble to load an image. IE displays the infamous red X, but many browser just keep the space where the image should be blank.
On topic:
I started reading the comic last night. It's a but awkward story wise, as the first few chapters are almost exactly like the film, or the other way round really, probably because the first issues were out when they started with the script. I like the artwork though :thumbup: It also has the same "addictiveness", I had to force myself to put it down to go to sleep...
(I used to read comics on a weekly basis when I was a teenager but haven't read many since. I meant to have read Watchmen throughout the past year, but still failed so far :bag:)
Post by: Critter on April 20, 2010, 02:46:24 AM
Achim I am using IE and didn't get a red X, maybe I should try Firefox again some time. And also good to hear you have started the comic, I was also surprised by just how dead on it was in the first couple of issues, even the exact same lines as in the film sometimes. It doesn't stay that way for long though.
Post by: Achim on April 20, 2010, 02:53:40 AM
It doesn't stay that way for long though.It's kind of what I am hoping for. I was "promised" a separate, different experience and that's what I want. I am looking forward to get to the bits that were changed for the movie.
Post by: Critter on April 21, 2010, 06:23:11 AM
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/lscott/2010/04/20/kick-ass-is-the-quintessential-libertarian-film/ (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/lscott/2010/04/20/kick-ass-is-the-quintessential-libertarian-film/)
Post by: Achim on April 21, 2010, 06:39:11 AM
I just found this article that anyone who liked Kick-Ass might be interested in. It is the best article I have read so far defending the controversy around the film and also puts forward an interesting opinion on Eberts review.I get Page Not Found ???
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/lscott/2010/04/20/kick-ass-is-the-quintessential-libertarian-film/ (http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/lscott/2010/04/20/kick-ass-is-the-quintessential-libertarian-film/)
Post by: Critter on April 21, 2010, 06:46:21 AM
Post by: Critter on April 21, 2010, 06:49:01 AM
Here, I found the same article on a different site. This one is annoying, it has a lot of little highlights all over the words and a bunch of other distracting things but you can still read it.
Post by: Achim on April 21, 2010, 07:26:01 AM
The dialog that "impressed" me the most was this:
Diner Fight Guy 1: ~ the fuck is wrong with you, man? You rather die for some piece of shit that you don't even fucking know?
Dave Lizewski: And three assholes, laying it in one guy while everyone else watches?
[reaches for air]
Dave Lizewski: And you wanna know what's wrong with me? Yeah, I'd rather die... so bring it on!
BTW, I am half way through the comic now and only found one major difference to the movie so far.
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Post by: Critter on April 21, 2010, 07:36:31 AM
Post by: Najemikon on April 21, 2010, 12:35:43 PM
Post by: Critter on April 21, 2010, 01:07:59 PM
Post by: Achim on April 22, 2010, 06:05:23 AM
Post by: lovemunkey187 on April 22, 2010, 12:04:25 PM
You know, so many of my friends have watched this and said "the trailer made it look like a comedy, it wasn't funny"
I LOL'd quite alot through this. :shrug:
Post by: Critter on April 22, 2010, 02:02:29 PM
You know, so many of my friends have watched this and said "the trailer made it look like a comedy, it wasn't funny"
I LOL'd quite alot through this. :shrug:
I laughed quite a lot as well, but I think what those people mean is that the marketing lead them to believe this would be a straight out comedy. They probably were expecting more of a silly Meet The Spartans type parody. Kick-Ass however did deliver plenty of laughs but also had a deeper, more emotional level to much of the plot which I think worked perfectly, but may not have been what people were expecting.
Post by: Jimmy on April 22, 2010, 05:14:29 PM
They probably were expecting more of a silly Meet The Spartans type parody.Sophie please never used again "Meet the Spartans" and "parody" in the same phrase, thank you :redcard:
This is not a parody, this is not funny and this is not even a movie. My oppinion on it had changed a lot after a second viewing (not that it was that good after the first). They don't do movie anymore (thanks to the Disaster Movie flop), it's a good thing and no one want them back (maybe the braindeads who finds them funny want, but like they probably find a blank screen funny too their oppinions doesn't really count).
Post by: Critter on April 22, 2010, 11:35:54 PM
They probably were expecting more of a silly Meet The Spartans type parody.Sophie please never used again "Meet the Spartans" and "parody" in the same phrase, thank you :redcard:
This is not a parody, this is not funny and this is not even a movie. My oppinion on it had changed a lot after a second viewing (not that it was that good after the first). They don't do movie anymore (thanks to the Disaster Movie flop), it's a good thing and no one want them back (maybe the braindeads who finds them funny want, but like they probably find a blank screen funny too their oppinions doesn't really count).
I do apologise Jimmy, won't happen again. I haven't even seen any of them myself, I think I watched one once, it was so poor that I have been avoiding them ever since. I honestly don't know how anyone can find the type of humour where all they do is drop a cow on Iron Mans head funny. Although, that being said I think the original Scary Movie does have some merit as an okay spoof of the genre, they just seemed to go downhill from there.
Post by: Jimmy on April 22, 2010, 11:46:03 PM
Worst weekend of my life :laugh:
Post by: Critter on April 22, 2010, 11:59:54 PM
Post by: Critter on April 24, 2010, 12:10:57 PM
Post by: Achim on April 25, 2010, 06:59:40 AM
While the freshness is gone (obviously) and the amazement about the story (mainly the opening section) slightly lessened (for having seen it just a week earlier) it allowed me to concentrate on other aspects. The acting is really god in most places, with mainly some side characters not being quite up to par (e.g the two thugs we see in the beginning are a bit wooden) and the delivery from the main characters in some scenes being a bit odd (the latter may be on purpose, at least in some of those cases). the second half of the film pulled me in entirely again, with the climactic scene being every bit it was the first time around (incl. the excitement when Kick-Ass shows up to help Hit-Girl).
Post by: Tom on April 27, 2010, 10:52:40 PM
Also I have read the comic four times already (also from this one I still didn't get tired off).
Post by: Najemikon on April 28, 2010, 08:15:44 PM
Post by: dfmorgan on April 29, 2010, 10:43:33 AM
Dave
Post by: Jimmy on April 29, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Kind of funny that I defend this film without watching it, but it's more the fact that the guy can't understand he did an un-professional job...
Post by: Najemikon on April 29, 2010, 08:04:56 PM
Granted, our well-balanced and intelligent fellow member, Dave ;), is a Mail reader, but I have to say, "Live by the sword, die by the sword". They spend all their time provoking people, what sort of response does he expect?
Post by: dfmorgan on April 29, 2010, 08:12:25 PM
And he miss the point again... What he wrote was not a critic but a no point attack against a movie, many so-called critics do this frequently and when it's happen they are critiqued for writing with an agenda and un-professionally. Roger Ebert had done that frequently (just read some of his fulci's movies review or his Day of the Woman review) and he had lost a lot of credibility for that. If you want to be called a movie critic you review a movie without an agenda and if you want to attack freely a movie you become a blogger... Not that I've something against them since I am one, but I don't consider myself to be a critic and I can say whatever I want in my works if it's the truth.
Kind of funny that I defend this film without watching it, but it's more the fact that the guy can't understand he did an un-professional job...
It also proves what I said before. The Mail are so out of touch; he actually makes some fairly good points about cyber-bullying, which is an awful problem, but there's so much spin on that article, you'd think the Internet is a mucus filled cesspit smack bang in the middle of a fiery Hell, populated by inbred maggots!
Granted, our well-balanced and intelligent fellow member, Dave ;), is a Mail reader, but I have to say, "Live by the sword, die by the sword". They spend all their time provoking people, what sort of response does he expect?
:thanks: :thanks: both very good responses and so right.
Dave
p.s. Oh by the way, as a Daily Mail reader, I did think that the Internet was a mucus filled cesspit smack bang in the middle of a fiery Hell, populated by inbred maggots! but then again maybe not :devil:
Post by: karmesinrot on April 29, 2010, 11:08:37 PM
Post by: Dragonfire on April 29, 2010, 11:18:28 PM
Post by: Jimmy on April 29, 2010, 11:22:20 PM
Wow I can't believe you guys are all on your 3rd and 4th viewings of this movie!I haven't seen it. I never go at movie theatre and I don't like modern film, but maybe I will give it a chance when it will appears on dvd if I find it cheap...
Post by: Critter on April 30, 2010, 12:21:11 AM
Wow I can't believe you guys are all on your 3rd and 4th viewings of this movie! :o I still haven't seen it, but my excuse is I've been very busy with studying for exams. Will definately have to pick this one up on dvd when it comes out
Must... resist... 5th... viewing. :P
I'm trying to keep it at just 4 viewings in the cinema before I grab it on blu-ray. Oh and also for anyone who is interested John Murphy said on his facebook that the score soundtrack to Kick-Ass will be released on itunes May 3rd... or 5th.
Post by: Critter on April 30, 2010, 01:58:14 AM
Post by: Achim on April 30, 2010, 06:24:41 AM
Oh and also for anyone who is interested John Murphy said on his facebook that the score soundtrack to Kick-Ass will be released on itunes May 3rd... or 5th.:yahoo:
That's Monday or Wednesday already ;D I hope that includes the instrumental pieces not included on the other soundtrack, but not composed by him (the 28 days Later theme, the Mozart "song", etc.).
Post by: Critter on April 30, 2010, 07:25:58 AM
Oh and also for anyone who is interested John Murphy said on his facebook that the score soundtrack to Kick-Ass will be released on itunes May 3rd... or 5th.:yahoo:
That's Monday or Wednesday already ;D I hope that includes the instrumental pieces not included on the other soundtrack, but not composed by him (the 28 days Later theme, the Mozart "song", etc.).
Since John Murphy is the composer who did the 28 Days Later theme and also theSunshine theme which were both used in Kick-Ass then I think they will be on the soundtrack. I heard rumour that the score sountrack itself will have 40 tracks, but then and again, that is only a rumour.
Post by: Achim on April 30, 2010, 10:10:53 AM
Since John Murphy is the composer who did the 28 Days Later theme and also theSunshine theme which were both used in Kick-Ass then I think they will be on the soundtrack.I) certainly hope so. But copyright goes mysterious ways... ;)
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I heard rumour that the score sountrack itself will have 40 tracks, but then and again, that is only a rumour.I often see soundtracks these days, where they include the incidfental music like it was in the movie, meaning you get loads of short pieces (e.g. 30s). In the "old" days they usually would create suites to combine all those.
Post by: Critter on April 30, 2010, 10:30:35 AM
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I often see soundtracks these days, where they include the incidfental music like it was in the movie, meaning you get loads of short pieces (e.g. 30s). In the "old" days they usually would create suites to combine all those.
Yeah I remember thinking it might be something like that, I couldn't imagine when 40 score pieces even would have been used in Kick-Ass. I also remember that in one of the Kill Bill soundtracks I had they included sound effects like sword swipes etc, some were only a few seconds each but a seperate track, could be something like that... I certainly hope not though :P
Post by: Tom on April 30, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
Post by: Critter on May 01, 2010, 12:41:48 AM
Or even worse, they could include sound bites from the movie for every other track.
Do you have the first soundtrack? The one with the songs used on it but not the score... becuase they have sound bites at the start of almost every track there. It's very annoying, I have to skip the first part of each song.
Post by: Tom on May 01, 2010, 09:52:49 AM
Maybe I will buy a few of the songs on iTunes taken from their original CDs.
Post by: Tom on May 02, 2010, 04:37:59 PM
These guys have already over 200 reviews online. I have watched a few of those now and I am definately watching new ones as they come up.
Post by: Achim on May 03, 2010, 06:42:33 AM
Thanmks for that review Tom, I subscibed to them as well.
Post by: Dragonfire on May 05, 2010, 12:43:12 AM
So much more was going on than I expected, starting with the first few minutes. There are a good amount of surprises throughout the movie that keep it from being predictable. The story is very entertaining and it works well. I like how it is a sort of realistic look at what could happen if someone decided to dress up like a superhero. I like that Dave has to face the consequences of what he decides to do. I love all the references to other comic books and superheroes that turn up throughout the movie. Big Daddy does remind me of Batman with the look of his costume and the fact that he has so many weapons. He may have more than Batman. Hit-Girl is awesome, though there is something slightly disturbing about an eleven or twelve year old girl being so good at killing. The cast handles their parts well. Nicolas Cage is more understated than he has been in many of his other parts and that works perfectly for his character.
There is a lot of graphic violence and I have no doubt that the movie is too violent for some people. The violence works for the movie given what is going on and it doesn't really seem excessive. Some people probably won't agree. Humor turns up every so often though things that characters say and do. The humor is a bit twisted, which is perfect for the movie.
Overall, the movie is really entertaining and definitely worth watching, though it isn't for everyone.
:thumbup:
I did post a longer review on Epinions.
Kick-Ass (http://www0.epinions.com/review/Kick_Ass_95929362/content_510299508356)
Post by: Achim on May 05, 2010, 06:15:07 AM
So much more was going on than I expected, starting with the first few minutes.I think that is what surpised most people. In fact, I think many poeple who went to see the trailer extended to feature length were ultimately disappointed. (I had hoped for it, but luckily had been prepared by some online comments than that there is more to it than the trailer suggested.)
Post by: Dragonfire on May 05, 2010, 09:11:20 AM
I'm thinking of getting the graphic novel now. And I saw a book on Amazon about the making of the movie that I'm tempted by as well.
Post by: Critter on May 05, 2010, 09:53:24 AM
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And I saw a book on Amazon about the making of the movie that I'm tempted by as well.
I got the making of book by Mark Millar a few weeks ago and have since read all of it and I can tell you that you will not be dissapointed. It's fantastic, has almost everything you could wish to know about the behind the scenes process of the film, including tons of interviews and great images such as concept art and on set photos. It also has a section near the end which pays attention to ideas about a sequel which was interesting.
Post by: Achim on May 05, 2010, 10:01:57 AM
Post by: DJ Doena on May 05, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
Too bad the best scenes were already in the trailer...
Post by: Critter on May 05, 2010, 01:17:33 PM
I was in the theatre yesterday (dubbed version) and enjoyed it very much. It was so over the top and yet somewhat realistic.
Too bad the best scenes were already in the trailer...
In my opinion the best scene, or at least my favourite scene anyway was
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Post by: Achim on May 05, 2010, 03:12:11 PM
Post by: Tom on May 05, 2010, 07:04:38 PM
QuoteAnd I saw a book on Amazon about the making of the movie that I'm tempted by as well.
I got the making of book by Mark Millar a few weeks ago and have since read all of it and I can tell you that you will not be dissapointed.
I also ordered it and it shipped yesterday. I just can't get enough of this movie :laugh:
I even bought the poster.
Post by: Najemikon on May 05, 2010, 08:48:58 PM
Post by: Dragonfire on May 05, 2010, 09:00:29 PM
Post by: Najemikon on May 05, 2010, 09:03:42 PM
Kick Ass 2: Balls to the Wall (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/kick-ass-2-gets-2012-release?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=totalfilm&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20totalfilm/imdbnews%20%28Total%20Film%20IMDb%20aggregate%29)
I have faith. Bring it on! Particularly like the comment about Red Mist. :thumbup: Think about it for a moment; Kick Ass is about what it takes to be a superhero. Well, what does it take to be supervillain? :laugh:
Post by: Dragonfire on May 05, 2010, 09:06:49 PM
Post by: Critter on May 06, 2010, 01:30:19 AM
Wow, that was quick! Another advantage of independence.
Kick Ass 2: Balls to the Wall (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/kick-ass-2-gets-2012-release?ns_campaign=news&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=totalfilm&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:%20totalfilm/imdbnews%20%28Total%20Film%20IMDb%20aggregate%29)
I have faith. Bring it on! Particularly like the comment about Red Mist. :thumbup: Think about it for a moment; Kick Ass is about what it takes to be a superhero. Well, what does it take to be supervillain? :laugh:
I can't wait for the sequel. I'm especially looking forward to seeing Hit-Girl riding around on a purple ducati which Goldman promised Moretz she could have. I also heard a rumour that Red Mist's new Supervillian name is going to be
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Post by: Najemikon on May 07, 2010, 10:15:09 PM
Sadly that's evaporated. This pic of Moretz in the movie has appeared:
http://www.movieweb.com/news/NE6OR7a7hoCV9b
I know it's only one pic, but she looks like a normal kid who has a got a bit messy eating jam. Lina Leandersson could be sweet and horrific with just a glance.
Post by: Critter on May 08, 2010, 12:36:54 AM
Post by: Achim on May 08, 2010, 10:25:09 AM
I know it's only one pic, but she looks like a normal kid who has a got a bit messy eating jam. Lina Leandersson could be sweet and horrific with just a glance.I'll give it the chance of a doubt and will wait for more pictures.
It's only a remake though, won't change the quality of the original one bit!
I'm trying to keep it at just 4 viewings in the cinema before I grab it on blu-ray. Oh and also for anyone who is interested John Murphy said on his facebook that the score soundtrack to Kick-Ass will be released on itunes May 3rd... or 5th.John Murphy commented on his Facebook page:
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Guys... I'm still being told the Kick-Ass Score Soundtrack will go up on iTunes soon. I'm not saying it will, I'm just telling what I've been told. As soon as I see it up there myself, I will let you know. As to the posts about Lion Gate saying they have no intention to release it, that is absolutely true. I just don't know what Lions Gate have to do with it. It was always Universal who were putting it out. JM.
Post by: Critter on May 18, 2010, 09:30:57 AM
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To all of you asking if there will be a Kick-Ass 2 - whilst there seems to be plenty of chat out there as well as film site profiles - officially there is NO word as yet. We will of course keep you posted
Post by: Critter on June 08, 2010, 11:26:45 AM
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Kick-Ass-Blu-ray-Release-Date-and-Details/6849
Post by: goodguy on June 08, 2010, 12:22:01 PM
The Kick-Ass blu-ray and DVD release date has been set.
To save a click (and add the SRP):
Date: August 3, 2010
SRP: $39.99/$29.99 (Blu/DVD)
Post by: Achim on June 08, 2010, 04:04:20 PM
I had hoped for some Deleted Scenes, but we can't have it all.
I like the cover art.
Looking forward.
Post by: Najemikon on June 08, 2010, 07:39:39 PM
Post by: goodguy on June 09, 2010, 01:23:19 AM
*sigh*, I am growing tired of the Blu-ray/DVD combos.
??? AFAIK these are separate Blu and DVD editions. Or did I miss something?
Post by: Najemikon on June 09, 2010, 01:28:16 AM
Post by: RossRoy on June 09, 2010, 02:25:39 AM
Post by: Achim on June 09, 2010, 06:06:48 AM
They are separate editions - but the Blu ray comes with DVD and digital copy versions.This! The cover indicates it's a 3-disc set.
It's not a combo in the sense of a dual sided disc, but why do they give me DVD with my Blu-ray...? So that I can give it to my friend, cutting into their sales...? :headscratch:
Post by: Dragonfire on June 09, 2010, 06:17:27 AM
Now, I don't want the combo things anymore..it looks like I"ll be stuck with some titles though. bleck.
Post by: Critter on June 09, 2010, 06:32:34 AM
Post by: Dragonfire on June 09, 2010, 09:22:46 AM
Post by: Najemikon on June 09, 2010, 10:02:07 PM
Post by: dfmorgan on June 11, 2010, 08:14:34 PM
DVD (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-DVD-Chloe-Moretz/dp/B0038M1BAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-1) - £9.99
Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-Blu-ray-Chloe-Moretz/dp/B0038M1CMC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-2) - £15.99
Combi Steelbook (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-Combi-Pack-Blu-ray-Steelbook/dp/B003QXNBYU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-6) - £17.99
Limited Edition Collector's Box Set (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-Limited-Collectors-Box-Blu-ray/dp/B003QXNCDK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-7) - £69.99
Dave
Post by: Tom on June 11, 2010, 08:37:56 PM
Post by: Critter on June 12, 2010, 01:48:57 AM
Limited Edition Collector's Box Set (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-Limited-Collectors-Box-Blu-ray/dp/B003QXNCDK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-7) - £69.99
:drooling:
Post by: dfmorgan on June 12, 2010, 04:22:15 PM
Place your orders
DVD (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-DVD-Chloe-Moretz/dp/B0038M1BAU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-1) - £9.99
Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-Blu-ray-Chloe-Moretz/dp/B0038M1CMC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-2) - £15.99
Combi Steelbook (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-Combi-Pack-Blu-ray-Steelbook/dp/B003QXNBYU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-6) - £17.99
Limited Edition Collector's Box Set (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kick-Ass-Limited-Collectors-Box-Blu-ray/dp/B003QXNCDK/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1276279529&sr=1-7) - £69.99
Dave
as an addendum to this I've found that both HMV and Play have their own exclusives.
HMV Blu-ray (http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=4848;5;-1;-1;-1&sku=649224&_tag.WT.ac=DVD_MAG_KICKASS-PBODY-MA_KICKASS_TITLES-649224)- £15.99
Play DVD (http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/9770259/Kick-Ass/Product.html) - £15.99
Play DVD (http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/9770259/Kick-Ass/Product.html) - £12.99
Play Blu-ray (http://www.play.com/DVD/Blu-ray/4-/9770653/Kick-Ass/Product.html) - £15.99
Dave
Post by: Achim on June 25, 2010, 02:21:01 PM
Accidentally I found out today, that John Murphy's (and other's) score has finally been released. the bad news: ONLY in the UK and ONLY digitally (Amazon.co.uk (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003MP19XC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p340_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0XP4N0HQSV5TQJVFJNQA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467198433&pf_rd_i=468294) only has MP3 downloads and in iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/kick-a-s-the-score/id373037488) it's also only in the UK store). *sigh*, things are never easy, are they.I'm trying to keep it at just 4 viewings in the cinema before I grab it on blu-ray. Oh and also for anyone who is interested John Murphy said on his facebook that the score soundtrack to Kick-Ass will be released on itunes May 3rd... or 5th.John Murphy commented on his Facebook page:QuoteGuys... I'm still being told the Kick-Ass Score Soundtrack will go up on iTunes soon. I'm not saying it will, I'm just telling what I've been told. As soon as I see it up there myself, I will let you know. As to the posts about Lion Gate saying they have no intention to release it, that is absolutely true. I just don't know what Lions Gate have to do with it. It was always Universal who were putting it out. JM.
So, well, here is my hope one of our UK members can help me: If you use iTunes you can "gift" me the album; that is one of the option in the drop down menu on the right next to the price. iTunes will then send me a code that I can redeem and eventually download the songs. Of course, before this will happen, I would paypal you the money (so you need a PayPal account as well, I guess).
Post by: dfmorgan on June 30, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
I hope it is already the promised extended cut.
The entry for the video and extras has been made on the BBFC site contains "KICK-ASS") and (( [TypeOfMedia] contains Film) OR ( [TypeOfMedia] contains Video) OR ( [TypeOfMedia] contains DigitalMedia))&SearchMax=50]here (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/SearchClassifiedWorks/?SearchView&Query=( [Title).
The film is listed as being 117m 12s and the video is said to be 112m 56s, which allowing for 4% speed-up gives roughly 117m 38s. Not sure if that equates to an extended edition or some other factor, like maybe my maths.
Dave
Post by: Tom on June 30, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
Post by: dfmorgan on June 30, 2010, 08:32:37 PM
Doesn't sound like the extended cut. This was about the length it ran in the theatres. I have read that Matthew Vaughn plans to reintegrate 19 minutes of additional footage.
Have to agree. I'll keep an eye on BBFC to see if any further editions get listed.
Dave
Post by: Achim on July 22, 2010, 03:13:01 AM
Accidentally I found out today, that John Murphy's (and other's) score has finally been released. the bad news: ONLY in the UK and ONLY digitally (Amazon.co.uk (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003MP19XC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p340_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0XP4N0HQSV5TQJVFJNQA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467198433&pf_rd_i=468294) only has MP3 downloads and in iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/kick-a-s-the-score/id373037488) it's also only in the UK store). *sigh*, things are never easy, are they.I know sometimes posts get overlooked and eventually unnoticed. So, I decided to bump the above post once, on the chance somebody who can/would help didn't see it the first time. (Sorry to thos eexpecting something new here, but it is still not available oin the german iTunes Store :weep:.)
So, well, here is my hope one of our UK members can help me: If you use iTunes you can "gift" me the album; that is one of the option in the drop down menu on the right next to the price. iTunes will then send me a code that I can redeem and eventually download the songs. Of course, before this will happen, I would paypal you the money (so you need a PayPal account as well, I guess).
Post by: Najemikon on August 18, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/review/8303080.stm :laugh:
Post by: dfmorgan on September 02, 2010, 09:33:37 PM
Doesn't sound like the extended cut. This was about the length it ran in the theatres. I have read that Matthew Vaughn plans to reintegrate 19 minutes of additional footage.
Have to agree. I'll keep an eye on BBFC to see if any further editions get listed.
Dave
A new video and online edition listed at BBFC however they only add seconds on to the running time - both new entries are 117m 41s as opposed to the film r/t of 117m 12s. Details here (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AVF264866).
Dave
edited to correct a couple of typos
Post by: Najemikon on September 02, 2010, 10:51:22 PM
Post by: dfmorgan on September 02, 2010, 11:15:06 PM
Dave
Post by: Najemikon on September 03, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Post by: Tom on September 04, 2010, 10:14:31 PM
With luck I will be able to watch it on Monday :)
Post by: dfmorgan on September 04, 2010, 11:05:07 PM
My copy was shipped :yahoo:
With luck I will be able to watch it on Monday :)
Amazon handed mine to the courier today.
Dave
Post by: Achim on September 06, 2010, 02:22:39 PM
So, well, here is my hope one of our UK members can help me: If you use iTunes you can "gift" me the album; that is one of the option in the drop down menu on the right next to the price. iTunes will then send me a code that I can redeem and eventually download the songs. Of course, before this will happen, I would paypal you the money (so you need a PayPal account as well, I guess).:celebrate: Thank you very much to the friend who helped me to obtain my copy of the album from the UK Store. :bow:
Post by: Tom on September 06, 2010, 05:51:13 PM
So I will have to watch it tomorrow. I really would have liked to watch it today. I also read that the documentary on it is really worthwhile.
Post by: Najemikon on September 06, 2010, 07:02:50 PM
Post by: Najemikon on September 07, 2010, 01:01:29 AM
Where the fuck did this amazing film come from? Sorry. Pardon the bloody French and all that, but really. It's just rude how good this film actually is. Who the hell does Matthew Vaughn think he is? :laugh: His grasp of the material is massive. His editing and pacing couldn't be sharper. The set-pieces are exhilarating, original and different from each other; that's massive in itself. And then the shift in tone is audacious and confident. When the freshly beaten Dave stares into the mirror... Big Daddy's insane pride... none of the Spider-Man or Iron-Man films could find such simple effectiveness and pull it off. Even Nolan's Batman couldn't do a gear change like that even if he wanted to.
As I said before, I loved it the first time round even with the sound dropping out at the preview. Now I've been able to appreciate that theme... when they fly over the city scape, it's literally magnificent.
And all the while it's still playing against convention! It's still happy to tread a middle ground, aping high school comedies and Spidey. So every time it reverts back to type, it's being so damn cheeky! You know what Vaughn is capable of, he must be laughing as he slums it in the school scenes. Or maybe he just couldn't believe his luck to be working from that material and with such an amazing cast. Movie magic, right there.
"Movie magic"? Listen to me! ::) When I wrote my original review, I was actually having to persuade myself why it had to be a full five. I take some flak for choosing high ratings, but honestly, I take it serious. And I kept scoffing, "it can't have been that good!" even while proving to myself it was. Even now, following a second viewing I'm still reeling that it Could Not Have Been That Good.
But it is bloody awesome. :thumbup: I repeat from the first time I saw it, it wipes the floor with most other superhero movies. It defines the genre and everyone else will be playing catch-up, especially as Marvel descend into this factory line of Origins and Avengers. They're old fashioned before they're even made!
Post by: Tom on September 07, 2010, 11:11:34 PM
Though I am a little disappointed, that there are no deleted scenes in the bonus materials. In the making of I glimpsed for example a scene with Big Daddy and Hit Girl on a playground. They probably save them for an extended cut of the movie.
I also miss the trailers. I am usually not one who insists of having trailers on the DVD/Blu-ray, but I just loved the Hit-Girl red band trailer which got me so psyched about this movie to begin with. I really would have liked to have it on my Blu-ray.
Post by: Najemikon on September 08, 2010, 12:32:53 AM
Post by: goodguy on September 08, 2010, 01:34:53 AM
I also miss the trailers. I am usually not one who insists of having trailers on the DVD/Blu-ray, but I just loved the Hit-Girl red band trailer which got me so psyched about this movie to begin with. I really would have liked to have it on my Blu-ray.
The R1 DVD has both the regular and the Hit Girl trailer. Also, an AC by Vaughn and a featurette about the comic books.
It's just rude how good this film actually is. Who the hell does Matthew Vaughn think he is? :laugh:
...
Movie magic, right there.
I was already really impressed with Stardust. Have you seen that?
Post by: Dragonfire on September 08, 2010, 07:16:36 AM
Post by: Achim on September 11, 2010, 09:17:36 AM
I am never wary of Deleted Scenes. They can contain nice interesting tidbits that muddled the pace of the film, but work fine as additional pieces. I am always a bit concerned when longer cuts are announced, especially if they are not Director's Cuts...
Post by: Najemikon on September 11, 2010, 11:57:22 AM
Post by: Achim on September 11, 2010, 01:05:48 PM
So I can reclaim a potential double dip from you...? :tease:
Well, I'll see how it fits into the next scheduled order(s) and get it when I feel the time has come.