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Weekend Movie Marathon
Anything Goes
Once again this weekend there will be no theme what so ever to my marathon. I can watch anything at any time. Whether it is on DVD, Cable, On-Demand or even... My brother downloaded a small handful of new release movies off the net that he wants me to watch... so there could even be a new movie here and there in the mix. I personally don't normally download movies from the net... but since they are already downloaded and on the computer... I will check them out and see if they are worth watching. One of the things I want to do is work a little (at least a couple) on my unwatched DVD collection. At this point I have 150 Movies in my unwatched DVD Collection.
I also feel like doing something in between each movie this weekend. But I wanted it to be something I haven't done before. I have a few discs of the old Max Fleischer's Superman theatrical shorts. So I think I will watch one of these shorts between each of the movies I watch this weekend.
Current Unwatched DVD Collection:
1. The Abominable Dr. Phibes
2. Abomination: Evilmaker 2
3. The Adventures of Tartu
4. Aerial Gunner
5. An Angel for Christmas
6. Apocalypse Rising
7. The Bat
8. Battle of Blood Island
9. Battleship Potemkin
10. Best of the Best
11. The Big Lift
12. Black Brigade
13. Black Hawk Down
14. Black Ribbon
15. Blood Alley
16. Blood on the Sun
17. Blood Stained Bride
18. Boiling Point
19. Brainiac
20. Branded
21. British Intelligence
22. Casulties of War
23. Chain Reaction
24. Chocolat
25. Circus of Fear
26. Commandos
27. Convoy
28. Crossroads
29. Curse of Pirate Death
30. Cyrano de Bergerac
31. Dark Light
32. Dark Places
33. The Darkness
34. The Dawn Express
35. Deadly Drifter
36. Derailed
37. Desert Heat
38. The Devil Bat
39. Diabolique
40. Die, Sister Die
41. Doctor Strange
42. Double Team
43. Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde
44. Dr. Phibes Rides Again
45. Drawing Blood
46. Edgar Allen Poe's Darkness
47. Embryo
48. Farewell to Arms
49. Fear of the Dark
50. Feral
| 51. The Fighting Seabees
52. Fists of Fear, Touch of Death
53. Fist of the Vampire
54. Flesh Feast
55. Flying Blind
56. The Flying Leathernecks
57. Foriegner
58. Four in a Jeep
59. Foxes
60. Full Frontal
61. Full Metal Jacket
62. God Told Me To
63. Gone with the Wind
64. The Gorilla
65. The Great American Snuff Film
66. The Green Berets
67. Gung Ho
68. Half Past Dead
69. Hell's Threshold
70. Home Made
71. House by the Cemetery
72. Identity Unknown
73. Immortal
74. In Harms Way
75. Infinity
76. The Innocent
77. Into Thy Hands
78. Intolerance: Love's Struggle Through the Ages
79. Jack the Ripper
80. Jarhead
81. Jaws: The Revenge
82. Kennel Murder Case
83. Kill Cruise
84. Knight Chills
85. Laser Mission
86. Last Best Chance
87. The Last Chance
88. Left Behind 2
89. Legacy of Blood
90. The Longest Day
91. Majestic
92. The Man with Two Brains
93. Messiah of Evil
94. Minesweeper
95. My Blue Heaven
96. Nabonga
97. The Navy Way
98. Nutcracker: An American Nightmare
99. One Eyed Jack
100. One of Our Aircraft is Missing
| 101. Operation Pacific
102. Pajama Game
103. Paranormal Activity
104. Passenger 57
105. Pony Trouble
106. Primal Fear
107. Private Buckaroo
108. Puppet Show
109. Rage of the Master
110. Replicant
111. Return of the Boogeyman
112. Return of the Magnificent Seven
113. Ricochet
114. The River: Legend of La Llorona
115. Road to Bali
116. Sabbath
117. Sands of Iwo Jima
118. Screaming Ninja
119. The Sea Chase
120. Seven Doors of Death
121. Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon
122. Sherlock Holmes and the Woman in Green
123. The Shunned House
124. Sickness House
125. Silent Bloodnight
126. Sinners
127. Sisters of Death
128. Slasher
129. Sleep Disorder
130. Snake Crane Secret
131. The Somnambulists
132. Spitfire
133. The Stranger
134. Super Hell
135. Super Hell 2
136. Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
137. Theater of Blood
138. They Were Expendable
139. This Darkness
140. A Vampire's Tale
141. Vulture's Eye
142. Up From Zero
143. The Watcher
144. Web of the Spider
145. White Fang to the Rescue
146. White Zombie
147. Who Am I?
148. Wild Bunch
149. Wings of an Eagle
150. Woodland Haunting 2
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Is there any in the above that are good that you would like to recommend to me? Or ones you are curious about that you would like to see a review for? If so let me know. No promises, but I will try to fit them in this weekend.
Normally my weekend movie marathons run from Friday through Sunday. But if the mood hits later today I may watch 1 or 2 today as well.
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My brother downloaded a small handful of new release movies off the net that he wants me to watch... so there could even be a new movie here and there in the mix. I personally don't normally download movies from the net... but since they are already downloaded and on the computer... I will check them out and see if they are worth watching.
I have over 700 downloaded movies on my computer that I did not download. A family friend of hours literally filled an entire hardrive with them and placed it in my computer. It's been there a while now and since my computer hooks up to the whole families network I won't delete them becuase others watch them. I just found Pete's comment interesting then though, I thought downloaded movies were mostly taboo here, or is it okay if you didn't download them yourself and like Pete said they are already on the computer. Ah well either way I like to watch movies sitting on my couch (I get uncomfortable on my desk chair after a long time) but I still can't hide the fact that I am a pirate.
The hardrive also has over 60 full TV shows... :fingerchew:
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As I said... downloading movies is not something I would normally do. Usually the only time I would do it is if it is basically the only way available to me. like stuff I don't expect to see the light of day any other way (like I would like to find a copy of the TV Reunion Movie The Bionic Showdown as it has Sandra Bullock in it). Something like that I would download and watch. But I usually stay away from theatrical movies and in worst case scenario I would wait for the movie to come on cable. But my brother downloaded some movies to watch and told me about some that either I would like or Britt and I would like together...
- The Wolfman (new one... this one is what broke me... have to see it!) :P
- Legion
- Planet 51
- Planet Hulk
- Scooby Doo: Abracadabra Doo
- The Toothfairy
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I thought if it were on TV or cable you were allowed to tape it. You are paying for it through cable fees, ads etc. I know that when I had cable (a long time ago) the fees kept going up because the certain shows kept increasing the fees that Time Warner Cable paid. They even dumped the NFL network, the last straw for me, and wouldn't broadcast it.
So, as far as I'm concerned, you are paying for them so go ahead and watch them.
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The problem is... a couple of these are still at the theater. Won't be available on Cable for quite some time I imagine. :P
But talking about it... I looked for The Bionic Showdown (a TV Reunion Movie BTW) and found a zip file with all 3 6 Million Dollar Man/Bionic Woman Reunion Movies. So I Should be able to watch those as well. :)
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Go ahead...enjoy them any way...Big Brother isn't watching you!
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I just hope the copies are worth looking at! If not I will just delete and wait. :P
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Well... since Britt is here with me today... thought we would go ahead and start watching some movies.
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Tooth Fairy
A bad deed on the part of a tough minor-league hockey player results in an unusual sentence: He must serve one week as a real-life tooth fairy.
Stars:
Dwayne Johnson
Ashley Judd
Stephen Merchant
Julie Andrews
My Thoughts:
This is the first one Britt and I decided to watch together. It is one of the movies my brother downloaded for us to watch together. It is a Disney movie starring Dwayne Johnson as a reluctant Tooth Fairy. I went into this one with some doubts. But I must admit... there was quite a few laughs in it. Definitely worth the time put into it. I will have to add this one to my DVD collection when I can.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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I thought downloaded movies were mostly taboo here, or is it okay if you didn't download them yourself and like Pete said they are already on the computer.
For me it depend of :
1. Is the movie unavailable in its complete form on DVD?
2. Is the dvd available is just a VHS transfert?
3. Is the dvd is OOP?
If the answer is yes for the 3 questions it's OK to download it, but if a movie was re-released by a second label later the first one isn't fair game anymore. For me those 3 simple rules work perfectly and the people in the movie bussiness I know had no problem with this. Don't forget that I work for some indie label to report copyright infringment on the web, what is of course the fact to download a movie who is always at the theatre. But you're lucky since I don't work for those big studios and I couldn't care less about them (in a way they are more responsible of the bad sales problem of the indie label than the piracy are)...
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I think I may changed my mind about the Superman Shorts... All the sudden not much in the mood for them for some reason.
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I thought downloaded movies were mostly taboo here, or is it okay if you didn't download them yourself and like Pete said they are already on the computer.
For me it depend of :
1. Is the movie unavailable in its complete form on DVD?
2. Is the dvd available is just a VHS transfert?
3. Is the dvd is OOP?
If the answer is yes for the 3 questions it's OK to download it, but if a movie was re-released by a second label later the first one isn't fair game anymore. For me those 3 simple rules work perfectly and the people in the movie bussiness I know had no problem with this. Don't forget that I work for some indie label to report copyright infringment on the web, what is of course the fact to download a movie who is always at the theatre. But you're lucky since I don't work for those big studios and I couldn't care less about them (in a way they are more responsible of the bad sales problem of the indie label than the piracy are)...
A couple of the TV shows are not available on DVD but almost all of the 700 films are. As I said before I hardly ever watch them, the person who gave them too us has a terrible taste in film (in my opinion anyway) and out of the 700 there's not many I really want to watch. I also only ever post reviews here that I watch on DVD/
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Title: My Blue Heaven
Year: 1990
Director: Herbert Ross
Rating: PG-13
Length: 95 Min.
Video: Pan & Scan 1.33:1
Audio: English: Dolby Digital Surround, French: Dolby Digital Surround
Subtitles: N/A
Stars:
Steve Martin as Vinnie
Rick Moranis as Barney
Joan Cusack as Hannah
Melanie Mayron as Crystal
William Irwin as Kirby
Plot:
The zaniness continues in My Blue Heaven, which asks Can an urban hood be happy with suburbanhood? Martin is a mob informant tucked away in a Witness Protection Program. Backup includes comedy reliables Rick Moranis, Joan Cusack, screenwriter Nora Ephron and director Herbert Ross. Laugh 'til you're blue!
Extras:
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My Thoughts:
I went into this one not sure what to expect since Steve Martin in his early career was rather silly and over acted. And this one is no exception. But it does have a pretty good storyline. Nothing really laugh out loud funny... but more smile on your face fun. There was also one of those familiar faces that I have seen a lot... but never knew who the guy was. A skinny older guy with a very memorable voice. I looked him up on the credits... his name is William Hickey. Anyone recognize him by his name here? Unfortunately the DVD itself leaves a lot to be desired. Part of a Comedy Double Feature with another old Steve Martin movie The Man with Two Brains... there is no extras what so ever for this movie...and it is in Pan and Scan. Which is something I wish I noticed before I bought the release. At least it was cheap at only $3.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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The Ugly Truth
A romantically challenged morning show producer is reluctantly embroiled in a series of outrageous tests by her chauvinistic correspondent to prove his theories on relationships and help her find love. His clever ploys, however, lead to an unexpected result.
Stars:
Katherine Heigl
Gerard Butler
Bree Turner
Eric Winter
Nick Searcy
My Thoughts:
I came across this one on Starz On-Demand. And I wanted to check it out as I am becoming more and more a fan of Katherine Heigl. It is not a bad movie... but it should have been better. Actually it is pretty average when it comes to Romantic Comedy. Sure Katherine Heigl was both hot and entertaining in it... Gerard Butler was alright in it as well. But this movie is missing a little something I can't quite put my finger on... something that makes for a great romantic comedy. Most of the jokes I have seen before... so it is not terrible original either. But as I said... it does entertain some... and I did like Katherine Heigl. I guess if I found this one cheap enough I would pick it up. But it would have to be under $10 before I would consider it..
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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Rambo
In Thailand, John Rambo joins a group of mercenaries to venture into war-torn Burma, and rescue a group of Christian aid workers who were kidnapped by the ruthless local infantry unit.
Stars:
Sylvester Stallone
Julie Benz
Matthew Marsden
Graham McTavish
Rey Gallegos
My Thoughts:
This one I watched on Showtime On-Demand. What did I think of this installment of the franchise? Well... there was things I liked... and there was things I disliked. The main thing I disliked is while in a different place... it (and I mean all of them) is basically the same thing, Which is not really a huge deal... as you tend to expect it from past experience of the franchise. Things I liked.... I am becoming a bigger fan all the time of Julie Benz. I really liked her i this movie. But then I really don't remember disliking her in anything I have seen her in so far. Also the violence and gore is brought up yet another notch. Sure this could be a bad thing for some people... but I rather enjoy it. I mean it gives it a more real feel to it. I mean it is war we are talking about here... and if that is not violent and full of gore in real life... then what is? This is another movie I hope to add to my collection at some point before too long.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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Title: Paranormal Activity
Year: 2009
Director: Oren Peli
Rating: NR
Length: 86 Min.
Video: Anamorphic Widescreen 1.78:1
Audio: English: Dolby Digital 5.1, Spanish: Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English, French, Spanish
Stars:
Katie Featherston as Katie
Micah Sloat as Micah
Mark Fredrichs as Psychic
Amber Armstrong as Amber
Ashley Palmer as Girl on Internet
Plot:
YOU DEMANDED IT and now the surprise hit critics call "one of the scariest movies of all time"* can be experienced in the most terrifying place of all...your home.
After a young, middle-class couple moves into what seems like a typical suburban house, they become increasingly disturbed by a presence that may or may not be demonic but is certainly most active in the middle of the night. Especially while they sleep.
Paranormal Activity builds suspense night after night all the way to the shocking ending. Roger Ebert calls it "truly scary."** Go ahead, WE DARE YOU TO WATCH IT AT HOME...at least you can leave the lights on.
*bloody-disgusting.com
**Roger Ebert, rogerebert.com, CHICAGO SUN-TIMES
Extras:
Scene Access
Trailers
Deleted Scenes
Closed Captioned
My Thoughts:
Before I bought this movie all I heard about it is how scary it is. So I figured I would set myself up right going into it. I closed all the blinds... turned off the lights getting it nice and dark in the room and then started the movie. I really wasn't sure if I should go with the theatrical version of the unrated version with the alternate ending. Since the alternate ending was available separately as well I decided to go with the Theatrical version and then afterward I would watch the alternate ending.
After watching the movie I will say I liked it... quite a bit in fact. Scary? Not surprisingly it didn't scare me at all. Maybe a slight chill in one or 2 scenes... possibly 1 or 2 jump scenes... but actual scares... not at all. But as I have said before... I haven't been scared by a horror movie in many... MANY years. But even so... I enjoyed the movie. After watching both endings... I can't decide which ending I prefer. Both versions had their good points. Any time I watch this again I will have trouble deciding which version I will want to watch.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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Go on IMDb and read about the original festival ending - I wish I could see that one!
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Sounds like they left the best ending off the DVD! :thumbdown:
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I'm curious Pete, which films are there that you would say have genuinely scared you?
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As far as I can remember... I never really been scared by a movie... at least not since I was a kid. Trying to remember back. Maybe The Exorcist the first time I saw it as a kid. But it don't have the same effect on me now. For some reason movies just don't seem to scare me.
The very first horror movie I ever seen was The Shining with Jack Nicholson. And even then I remembered a nice adrenaline rush (not sure if from the movie or because I wasn't supposed to be up watching cable tv in the middle of the night) :P That was back when I was about 11 years old.
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Title: Se7en
Year: 1995
Director: David Fincher
Rating: R
Length: 127 Min.
Video: Anamorphic Widescreen 2.35:1
Audio: English: Dolby Digital Surround EX, English: Dolby Digital Surround
Subtitles: English, French
Stars:
Morgan Freeman as Somerset
Andy Walker as Dead Man at 1st Crime Scene
Daniel Zacapa as Detective Taylor at First Murder
Brad Pitt as Mills
Gwyneth Paltrow as Tracy
Plot:
From director David Fincher (Fight Club) comes the psychological thriller about two detectives on the trail of "John Doe," a serial killer who chooses his victims according to the seven deadly sins.
Extras:
Scene Access
Audio Commentary
Trailers
Deleted Scenes
Featurettes
Gallery
Production Notes
Multi-angle
DVD-ROM Content
Closed Captioned
My Thoughts:
This is only the second time I ever watched this movie. not sure why I waited so many years to watch this one again. It is a right good movie. I enjoyed it. I really liked Morgan Freeman in the movie... though I never been much of a fan of Brad Pitt. So that could be part of the reason why I haven't watched it in so long. Beyond that... it is a good story. The DVD release is very good... with lots of extras. It is definitely a movie/release I would recommend.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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Title: The Man with Two Brains
Year: 1983
Director: Carl Reiner
Rating: R
Length: 90 Min.
Video: Pan & Scan 1.33:1
Audio: English: Dolby Digital Mono
Subtitles: N/A
Stars:
Steve Martin as Dr. Michael Hfuhruhurr
Kathleen Turner as Dolores Benedict
David Warner as Dr. Necessiter
Paul Benedict as Butler
Richard Brestoff as Dr. Pasteur
Plot:
It's comedy that's out of its mind (and the drunk-driving test is really, really hard!). Director Carl Reiner and star Steve Martin put their manic brains together in The Man with Two Brains, spoofing mad-scientist movies with a madder scientist: Dr. Hfuhruhurr (Martin), smitten with a disembodied brain he plans to implant into a curvaceous vixen (Kathleen Turner).
Extras:
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My Thoughts:
Going into this movie I really couldn't remember if I had seen it before. It is hard to remember all the movies you seen almost 30 years ago. After getting part way through it I realized I never seen the movie before. Unfortunately I didn't care much for this one. It may have had a laugh or two... but it was just a little too silly for my taste.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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I saw The Man With Two Brains back in 1983 when it first hit theatres. I remember liking it...though I don't think I've seen it since and it has been just over 25 years since then. I think this may have been the first film I ever saw Kathleen Turner in. Yes, it was silly but that was Steve's thing back then. I've seen most of his films but My Blue Heaven is one that I never did see. Mixed Nuts is another.
If nothing scares you, I would say horror films have ruined you. It's best to give them up now...or at least take a year's hiatus from them! :laugh:
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!! Now that scases me! :P
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I saw The Man With Two Brains back in 1983 when it first hit theatres. I remember liking it...though I don't think I've seen it since and it has been just over 25 years since then. I think this may have been the first film I ever saw Kathleen Turner in. Yes, it was silly but that was Steve's thing back then. I've seen most of his films but My Blue Heaven is one that I never did see. Mixed Nuts is another.
If nothing scares you, I would say horror films have ruined you. It's best to give them up now...or at least take a year's hiatus from them! :laugh:
Ah, but Roger, that's the great misunderstanding about horror fans. We can't be scared! It's like we're in on the joke with the film-makers. :laugh:
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I have the same problem :S ive not really been scared by a horror movie for a while... noises of a certain pitch make me jump no matter what film they are in :S
...I watched Seven recently Pete, I agree its a very good movie, I was surprised.
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I think the only film that ever got to me was Jaws. After seeing it I still got the willies even going into Lake Ontario's fresh water!
Sorry Pete...that shark music has to get to even you. :fingerchew:
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There is music in Jaws? I must have tuned it out. :tease:
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After seeing it I still got the willies even going into Lake Ontario's fresh water!
Then maybe this is the film that should have really scared you...
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Title: Best of the Best
Year: 1989
Director: Bob Radler
Rating: PG-13
Length: 97 Min.
Video: Anamorphic Widescreen 1.85:1
Audio: English: Dolby Digital Surround
Subtitles:
Stars:
Eric Roberts as Alex
Phillip Rhee as Tommy
James Earl Jones as Coach Couzo
Sally Kirkland as Wade
Christopher Penn as Travis
Plot:
Eric Roberts (Academy Award® Nominee Best Actor in a supporting role Runaway Train 1985, National Security, TV's "Less than Perfect"), Phillip Rhee, Christopher Penn (Starsky and Hutch, Reservoir Dogs), John Dye and David Agresta play five young men who are selected as members of the U.S. National Karate Team. Each teammate has his own reason for competing. However, they soon discover that in order to function as a team they must put aside their differences and learn to depend upon each other.
James Earl Jones (Academy Award® Nominee Best Actor The Great White Hope 1970, Field of Dreams, Hunt for Red October), is their unorthodox coach, and Sally Kirkland (Anna, The Sting, The Way We Were, A Star is Born), their trainer, teach them that winning is not a sometime thing – it's an all-time thing.
Together they enter an exhausting training period that puts their mental and physical skills to the ultimate endurance test. After three months of grueling workouts and personal conflicts thet are ready to face the highly skilled Korean team and become true champions.
In an unexpected and climactic ending these men come to understand what it takes to be the BEST OF THE BEST.
Extras:
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Trailers
Closed Captioned
My Thoughts:
I felt like something a little different... some martial arts. So I grabbed this one out of the collection I got from mom. I kinda have mixed feelings on this one. For the most part I enjoyed it.Though it was a bit slow at times. In this one they decided to go with the feel good ending over the exciting action-packed ending. A bold move for a martial arts movie... not sure which I prefer... but it was a nice change of pace. It is worth watching... but don't go into it expecting an action-packed martial arts movie.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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Title: The Watcher
Year: 2000
Director: Joe Charbanic
Rating: R
Length: 97 Min.
Video: Anamorphic Widescreen 1.85:1
Audio: English: Dolby Digital 5.1, French: Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English
Stars:
James Spader as Campbell
Marisa Tomei as Polly
Keanu Reeves as Griffin
Ernie Hudson as Ibby
Chris Ellis as Hollis
Plot:
Keanu Reeves ignites this action-packed, "superbly crafted thriller that zooms along like a sinister video game of hunter and prey!" (Richard Roeper, EBERT & ROEPER AND THE MOVIES)
After years of pursuing psychotic killers in Los Angeles, FBI agent Joel Campbell (James Spader) wants out. And now his nemesis, serial killer David Allen Griffin (Reeves), has tracked him all the way to Chicago just to torment him. Before each murder, Griffin sends Campbell a photograph of his intended victim and dares him to find her before he strikes again. Now, with every tick of the clock, and amidst pulse-pounding action, this stone-cold killer turns up the heat. Co-starring Oscar®-winner * Marisa Tomei, this game of cat and mouse will have you gasping for breath from its first terrifying frame until its final explosive conclusion!
* 1992 Best Supporting Actress, My Cousin Vinny.
Extras:
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Production Notes
DVD-ROM Content
My Thoughts:
This is a movie I bought blind (Never even heard of the movie before) when I found it in the Walmart bargain bin. It is definitely not the best serial killer movie I ever seen. But it is an entertaining movie. I liked most the cast in this movie... even if it didn't seem to be their best work. I also liked the storyline... but was expecting a little more from it. While it is worth watching... there is just something I can't put my finger on that is missing from the movie.
My Rating:
Out of a Possible 5
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Ah, but Roger, that's the great misunderstanding about horror fans. We can't be scared! It's like we're in on the joke with the film-makers. :laugh:
So true... Sometimes I am sad that it has come to this.
A film may scare me if I watch it in the cinema (due to the heightened focus to the film), but even then... The Descent is the only film in recent years genuinely freaked me out :laugh:
Then again, it's funny how one occasionally only realizes the tension a movie created at the moment when the muscles relax again (clenched hands or the sorts). :laugh: