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Title: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on February 26, 2010, 02:05:58 AM
Inglourious Basterds

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Year: 2009
Film Studio: The Weinstein Company, Universal Pictures, A Band Apart Productions
Genre: Action, Adventure, War
Length: 153 Min.

Director
Quentin Tarantino

Writing
Quentin Tarantino...Writer

Producer
Bob Weinstein (1954)
Harvey Weinstein (1952)
Erica Steinberg
Lloyd Phillips
Lawrence Bender (1957)

Cinematographer
Robert Richardson (1955)


Stars
Brad Pitt (1963) as LT. Aldo Raine
Mélanie Laurent as Shosanna
Christoph Waltz as COL. Hans Landa
Eli Roth as SGT. Donny Donowitz
Michael Fassbender (1977) as LT. Archie Hicox
Diane Kruger as Bridget von Hammersmark
Daniel Brühl as Fredrick Zoller
Til Schweiger as SGT. Hugo Stiglitz

Review
       A good film is manufactured similarly to a person’s home.  The screenplay is its foundation, with the acting, music and cinematography completing the construction. But if the foundation isn’t sound, the whole structure is surely to collapse. This is a lesson we all learn early in life through the tale of the three little pigs. And like the two pigs who built their home of straw and sticks, Quentin Tarantino has built a house of cards with his screenplay to Inglourious Basterds, and by simply taking away a trio of key plot contrivances in the story, the whole film comes a tumbling down. In the end, Inglourious Basterds is nothing more than an overrated director’s predictable attempt at keeping his rabid fanbase in an endless genuflection to his phantom talent.

       OK, where to begin? The opening scene, yes, that’s a good place to start. I had heard and read many glowing bits of praise concerning the first chapter in the film and I have to agree that it sets the stage quite nicely for the rest of the film. Although, if you can spot the first plot contrivance, the scene loses some of its luster and here is where I found fault with it. Let’s start with the tired and getting extremely old, “I really love Sergio Leone, so here’s some more ‘homage’ing to his genius” crap. Let’s see, you did it in Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill I & II, we get it already, please move on! Second, if you’re going to use a bit of cinematographic imagery to convey the meaning of Landa’s allegory, then you shouldn’t let said imagery, destroy the premise of the scene. At one point, when the farmer and Colonel Landa are sitting in the farmhouse, the Sun shines down through a window and down onto the floorboards, where the light beams between the boards and into the eyes of the frightened Jews beneath them. If Colonel Landa is such a meticulous master of his craft at hunting down hidden Jews, how does he not see through the ½ inch gap between each floorboard at the now illuminated quarry which he seeks? Third, instead of having his soldiers find the entrance to the crawl space and apprehending the Jewish family, Quentin decides to placate his now ‘frothing at the mouth for violence’ fanboys by having the soldiers make Swiss cheese of the floorboards with their machine guns.

       But what’s this? One of the Jews is trying to escape. It’s the daughter Shoshanna, and she’s made her getaway through the entrance to the crawl space and is frantically scurrying across the open farm field so she may survive the massacre. Colonel Landa pulls his luger from its holster and points the weapon at the fleeing girl, but then decides not to shoot her, instead he tauntingly exclaims, “au revoir Shoshanna”, and the scene ends. Why? Are Landa and his men suffering from plantar fasciitus and it’s too painful to run after her? Maybe they’ve forgotten how to drive a troop transport in the brief moment since their arrival, which they could easily use to track her down. No, it’s simple and it’s plot contrivance #1, if they kill her or capture her, chapters 3 & 5 in the film are no longer feasible. Having pulled the first card out of the house’s foundation, it is still strong and standing. But any further tampering may lead to disastrous results.

       In chapter 2, we meet the ‘basterds’. They are led by Aldo Raine (Brad Pitt), a hard-nosed, no nonsense brute of a fighter who really, I mean REALLY hates Nazis. He has been assigned by the OSS to select a group of commandos, who just like him, really, I mean REALLY hate Nazis too. During the briefing with his men, we soon find out that all the commandos are Jewish, a sort of gefilte grenadiers squad, who must prove their bravery by each obtaining 100 Nazi scalps. In the ensuing scene, which takes place deep behind enemy lines just prior to the Normandy invasion, we find out that Aldo ain’t kidding about the scalps. While Aldo is interrogating three captured German soldiers, the rest of the group is shown slicing their macabre souvenirs from the surrounding dead soldier’s heads. Shocking you say? Well…old Quentin is just getting started. When the German officer refuses to divulge the whereabouts of another German patrol located somewhere in the vicinity, Aldo asks him if he has heard of the basterds. The officer elaborates that the German army knows of this commando squad and its reputation for brutality. I’ve underlined this passage because it will be important to plot contrivance #2. Aldo then asks him if he has heard of the ‘Bear Jew’, a soldier who takes great pleasure in smashing Nazis with a baseball bat. Once again, the officer replies in the affirmative, yet still refuses to cooperate.

       Enter stage left, Eli Roth, sporting his Louisville slugger and proceeds to bash the bosch into oblivion. Seeing this, one of the other two prisoners makes a run for it and is shot. The remaining prisoner is shaking in his boots and after Aldo assures him that he will go free if he tells him where the patrol is, he divulges their whereabouts. True to his word, Aldo lets him go, but first he leaves him with a special Nazi ‘badge’ of honor. According to Aldo, to put the fear of God and the basterds into the Germans, he carves a swastika into the soldier’s forehead. Ding, Ding, Ding…if you guessed that this was plot contrivance #2, you would be right! Now follow me here… If the Germans already know of the basterds and their brutal beating and scalping of German soldiers (Remember, I underlined that above), then why does he need to ‘brand’ this soldier to put forth the message? I mean, if all Aldo wants is Nazi scalps, why would he let this one go? It makes no sense at all, he’d alert the Gestapo and they’d be there in a moment’s notice. The prisoner knows the names of a few of them, he knows how many basterds there are, and he knows their general location. Well, if he doesn’t let him go, our genius screenwriter will lose another key plot moment in chapter five, the swastika scar. This is the second card removed and the house is teetering on the brink.

       I could go on and on and on, but it would be like shooting fish in a barrel. So to counter my objections so far with the film, I’ll take a moment to extol the limited, and I do mean limited amount of good things in Inglourious Basterds. To begin with, Christopher Waltz is very good as the ruthless Colonel Landa, although for a few moments in the opening scene, I felt as if his mannerisms reminded me of Alvy Singer. Maybe it’s just a quirk of his portrayal, but at least it disappeared after the first scene. Waltz is definitely the glue that holds this patchwork of a screenplay together, and without him, the house of cards comes crashing down. Next, there are two moments in the film that are purely fantastic cinematic technique. The first comes in chapter 3 when Colonel Landa is interviewing Shoshanna, who owns the theater where the blood bacchanal will take place in chapter 5. As he questions her, he extols the virtues of the café’s version of apple strudel, the national dessert of Germany. He continues his questioning while consuming his portion. When the questioning is over, he puts his half smoked cigarette out in the middle of the unfinished strudel. A brilliant metaphorical moment that is not only a harbinger of the holocaust that’s going to take place in the theater, but also subliminally sets the stage for Landa’s actions during that climactic moment in the film.

       The second moment in the film that I thought was outstanding was in the bacchanal scene I mentioned a moment ago. As the final reel of A Nation’s Pride is playing, Shoshanna’s assistant, waiting for a cue in the film that Shoshanna has spliced in, tosses his cigarette on to a heaping pile of old nitrate film stock. Being highly flammable, the film stock erupts in a torrent of ambitiously hungry flames at the base of the screen.
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Once again, I must say, absolutely brilliant! Unfortunately, this outstanding moment of movie magic, is surrounded by probably the most improbable and gratuitous moments in film history. For Christ’s sake Quentin, don’t you think that if Hitler, Goebbels, Göring and the rest of the Nazi hierarchy were in attendance, there would be more than just TWO guards posted in the theater? But there is an easy explanation for this moment of absurdity, and it is plot contrivance #3. If there are guards posted at every door, then Marcel, Shoshanna’s Senegalese assistant, would not be able to secure the exits and prevent the Germans from escaping the theater and their ultimate demise. And that my friends is one card too many to remove, the structure has been weakened to the point that the whole screenplay has coming crashing down, leaving a mass of trite rubble in its wake.

       What a shame, this film had such potential. And I’m not being facetious. If Tarantino had the courage to make a film using just the struggle between the Landa and Shoshanna characters, and omitting the basterds, it could have been a masterpiece. Unfortunately for the movie-going public at large, Quentin is a coward, and must placate his fanbase by his now quite tired over-indulgence in bloodletting, comic book characterizations and self-gratifying expressionism. At the end of the film, Aldo’s final line, spoken as he looks into the camera at the audience as he carves his final badge of dishonor, “This just might be my masterpiece”, speaks volumes to the pretentiousness and self-stroking egotistical nature of a director whose work has steadily ebbed since the high tide of his Pulp Fiction days.


Ratings Criterion
5 Stars - The pinnacle of film perfection and excellence.
4 ½ Stars - Not quite an immortal film, yet a masterpiece in its own right.
4 Stars - Historically important film, considered a classic.
3 ½ Stars - An entertaining film that’s fun or engaging to watch.
3 Stars – A good film that’s worth a Netflix venture.
2 ½ Stars - Borderline viewable.
2 Stars – A bad film that may have a moment of interest.
1 ½ Stars – Insipid, trite and sophomoric, and that's its good points.
1 Star – A film so vacuous, it will suck 2 hours from the remainder of your life.
½ Star - A gangrenous and festering pustule in the chronicles of celluloid.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Achim on February 26, 2010, 05:37:54 AM
The descriptions of the faults shows me that you were clearly looking for them. What you call contrivance is something that is inherent in almost every film.

On the first scene: The gap is not literally 1/2" or more, it only appears that wide to us so that the film can show us the location of the Jews, it's a technicality. When one is looking for faults, they may stike them as such. Landa doesn't need to see through the gap, he is entirely aware that the Jews are there. He is not in doubt for one second, but he enjoys playing his game with the farmer, trying to get him to reveal the truth by himself. I can see however how not shooting Shosanna may be seen as a "too-simple" a plot device.

Why does Aldo let the German go? A) because he gave his word and B) to spread fear. Knowing of the Basterds is one thing, but hearing a first-hand account will increase the fear it puts into the German soldiers.


You don't like Tarantino and I respect that. But as strongly as your faults are based on small-ish plot devices it tells me that you were looking for them. Nothing wrong with that either, just an observation. Seems you are on the other end of this forum's spectrum than Pete. Pete is very forgiving to the worst of films and when he gives a low rating it sure must be a strinker (there are exceptions... :laugh:) whereas you seem to be rather tough inyour judgements. Again, nothing wrong here, just my observation.


I do get your suggestion that the Basterds hurt the film and I at least agree that leaving them out or at least presenting them differently may have changed the film positively.

I mentioned it in another threas, but I found myself having a problem the other trying to write a review foloowing notes. It's what actually make you go into too much details and loose track of the overall film.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on February 26, 2010, 01:47:17 PM
I agree entirely with Achim and I'm glad he replied first, because I doubt I could have put it so well.

First of all, accusing him of ripping off other movies is so old now. Every modern director is stealing from someone; Scorcese even demonstrated it in his marvellous documentary. He called it "smuggling" and proved it's a key element from the beginning of the medium.

The fact is, anyone can copy, but it still takes skill to build the scene correctly. And the skill of that scene is in the transferring of emotion, which is just sublime.

I'm sorry, but I really can't agree with anything in your breakdown of the opening scene. :shrug: Achim already said about the gap, plus Lando just playing with the farmer, etc. Additionally, he doesn't chase her because he can't be bothered. Would you chase a "rat"? No, you just want it out of your way.

I also take exception to your remark about slavering fanboys demanding violence. His understanding of screen violence has always been excellent. Would you make such sweeping dismissals of Peckinpah? You should listen to his explanation of the torture scene in Dogs too; his manipulation of the viewer is not pandering to ultra-violence.

I am glad you saw how well the restaurant scene was built at least and also the imagery of the concluding scene, which I just adored.

Overall, you have come to a similar conclusion to Mark Kermode who was frustrated at what he saw as squandering a natural talent. I do sort of agree. With both Kill Bills and this, he has moved away from the lean writing of Jackie Brown, which may stand one day as his finest film.

But for now I think Kermode and your good self are missing that this is clearly Tarantino's comic book phase. The structure of his last three films is just like the visual assault from a good comic, plus the random nature of the screenplay, with his love of chapters. It's the fact he has embraced this style and still observed traditional film conventions that make him one of the most important film-makers working today, considering every other mainstream director is going for 3d this, cgi that on everything. If he falls into the trap of thinking this is the only style audiences want, he will quickly run out of steam, but I expect he will prove to be more versatile. And if he doesn't, so long as I enjoy it, I don't really care! :P
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on February 26, 2010, 03:54:34 PM

First of all, accusing him of ripping off other movies is so old now.
I must be missing something Jon, where did I accuse him of ripping off other movies? By stating that he's stuck in an endless Leone money shot? Please Jon, you have to admit, it's getting very, very old.

Additionally, he doesn't chase her because he can't be bothered. Would you chase a "rat"? No, you just want it out of your way.

Now Jon, you're clutching at straws to defend his screenplay. For Christ's sake, she's not an amalgamation of Muhammad Ali, Carl Lewis and John Rambo. It's not as if she's about to jump into a machine guns nest and give them a fight.


Would you make such sweeping dismissals of Peckinpah?

Actually, when looking at some of his later films, yes.


I also take exception to your remark about slavering fanboys demanding violence. His understanding of screen violence has always been excellent.; his manipulation of the viewer is not pandering to ultra-violence.

Really? Then why hasn't he made a film yet that doesn't contain gratuitous violence? Yes, his understanding of screen violence is excellent, it's his bread & butter. Without it, he'd starve.

But for now I think Kermode and your good self are missing that this is clearly Tarantino's comic book phase.


I'm not missing it, I understand it's his mission to secure for his legacy, a sort of Roger Corman/George Romero kind of status among film lovers and historians. Unfortunately, he doesn't understand that those two directors made their reputations on films with shoestring budgets, not major Hollywood financing.

considering every other mainstream director is going for 3d this, cgi that on everything.


P.T. Anderson?(Who's in a league far above Tarantino) Joel & Ethan Coen? Pedro Almodóvar? Wes Anderson? Jean-Pierre Jeunet? David Fincher?(and if you mention Benjamin Button, I'll lose all respect for you)  ;)


If he falls into the trap of thinking this is the only style audiences want, he will quickly run out of steam, but I expect he will prove to be more versatile.

You may be right, but one thing I've learned in my 40+ years of film appreciation is that very few fans like to admit they were wrong in their assessment of the films and the film makers they loved and grew up with. They'd rather keep their heroes on the higher pedestal they built for them. And to that end, they'll support whatever they release. Does the name George Lucas ring a bell?
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on February 26, 2010, 07:27:42 PM

First of all, accusing him of ripping off other movies is so old now.
I must be missing something Jon, where did I accuse him of ripping off other movies? By stating that he's stuck in an endless Leone money shot? Please Jon, you have to admit, it's getting very, very old.

I admit nothing! As I keep saying, and I mean it sincerely, to copy is one thing, to be inspired and successfully navigate a very difficult scene takes genuine skill. You say you admired the restaurant scene, but he isn't copying anyone there. And I adore the Leone movies, so I get a kick out of anyone successfully using his style. Hold on... no, no-one else has. However "homages" or whatever you want to call it are happening all the time. It's just Tarantino unfortunately chooses to be inspired by one of the most recognisable directors ever. Sticks out like a sore thumb. Except, I love it!

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Additionally, he doesn't chase her because he can't be bothered. Would you chase a "rat"? No, you just want it out of your way.

Now Jon, you're clutching at straws to defend his screenplay. For Christ's sake, she's not an amalgamation of Muhammad Ali, Carl Lewis and John Rambo. It's not as if she's about to jump into a machine guns nest and give them a fight.

If you read that as me insinuating they thought she was a threat then you're mistaken. I mean, simply, that to them she is nothing. Less than nothing. And that nothing is incapable of surviving so it will eventually get wiped out anyway. Why bother wasting time? Like a cat, efficiently dealing with nearby rodents, but being lazy and smug the rest of the time. I feel no need to clutch at straws; it merely is what it is and for It is the ending of a perfect scene, a passionate, desperate bid for freedom from an enemy so powerful it has reduced her to less than human and can't be bothered to finish the job.
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Would you make such sweeping dismissals of Peckinpah?

Actually, when looking at some of his later films, yes.
Ok, Wild Bunch? The Getaway? Straw Dogs? They're what I'm considering specifically.
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I also take exception to your remark about slavering fanboys demanding violence. His understanding of screen violence has always been excellent.; his manipulation of the viewer is not pandering to ultra-violence.

Really? Then why hasn't he made a film yet that doesn't contain gratuitous violence? Yes, his understanding of screen violence is excellent, it's his bread & butter. Without it, he'd starve.

I wouldn't call Jackie Brown gratuitous. And honestly I believe he has the stones to produce anything above average without resorting to his bread and butter. Look how keen he was to do a Bond, which simply could not have contained anything so gratuitous. And his work on CSi was superb and the majority of that was simple character scenes, which he gave great vitality to. Heck if Robert Rodriguez can make a decent stab at a kids film, I'm sure QT could. I always have a sense that he knows instinctively knows how to match a film to it's audience and vice versa.
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But for now I think Kermode and your good self are missing that this is clearly Tarantino's comic book phase.


I'm not missing it, I understand it's his mission to secure for his legacy, a sort of Roger Corman/George Romero kind of status among film lovers and historians. Unfortunately, he doesn't understand that those two directors made their reputations on films with shoestring budgets, not major Hollywood financing.

Oh, of course he understands it! He knows exactly what he is doing. It's one of the things I enjoy about his work, because he takes stories made famous by the exploitation genre and gives them... I hate to say it, but an edge of quality. I don't want to piss off Jimmy by insulting one of his favourite genres, but I find the bulk of the real Grindhouse material absolutely unwatchable. Point of fact, Pam Grier as Jackie Brown is one of my favourite female performances. Now he wanted to use her because of cult "classics" like Foxy Brown and Coffy, so I was inspired to look them up. IMO, they're junk. He gave her a part in which she blossomed and he photographed her better then she had been before. That is the mark of a truly skilled director, manipulating his obvious love for a cult genre and making it palatable for a wide audience.

Contrary to my previous statement though, Romero and Corman aren't the best examples because I like their stuff!  :bag:
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considering every other mainstream director is going for 3d this, cgi that on everything.


P.T. Anderson?(Who's in a league far above Tarantino) Joel & Ethan Coen? Pedro Almodóvar? Wes Anderson? Jean-Pierre Jeunet? David Fincher?(and if you mention Benjamin Button, I'll lose all respect for you)  ;)

That's why I specified mainstream. I don't agree P.T. is in a league above. There Will Be Blood aside, I find him overrated and bloated, especially Boogie Nights (which by the way, to me blatantly apes Scorcese. What's good for the gander, eh?). Fincher made one of my favourite thrillers in Se7en, but again, overrated and repetitive. The Coen's and Wes Anderson are great examples, but it's a shame they'd rarely made a fraction of Tarantino's box office (A Serious Man went straight to DVD in this country, despite such recent success). No, I mean Tarantino is able to hold his own, albeit briefly, against blockbuster material. Directors like the Wachowski's or James Cameron.
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If he falls into the trap of thinking this is the only style audiences want, he will quickly run out of steam, but I expect he will prove to be more versatile.

You may be right, but one thing I've learned in my 40+ years of film appreciation is that very few fans like to admit they were wrong in their assessment of the films and the film makers they loved and grew up with. They'd rather keep their heroes on the higher pedestal they built for them. And to that end, they'll support whatever they release. Does the name George Lucas ring a bell?

Ok, two points: whatever he goes on to do, it will not invalidate his current body of work. I enjoy it now, I expect I always will. Which brings me to my second point: in my experience, people who truly appreciate and understand film are not so blinkered as unable to put films into context. You mention Lucas? What a dreadful example! He is on no pedestal after the prequel disasters, and to a lesser extent (simply because I loved it!) the fourth Indiana Jones.

But I suppose I can assume from you picking him, you mean the Star Wars original trilogy hero worship? Perhaps you are in the camp that all the Star Wars films are equal and that those of us who hate the prequels have been blinded by our childhood memories? Well I consider myself very self-aware of my tastes. When I liked Star Wars, I also thought Police Academy was the best comedy ever. That changed. I am also very confident in why the trilogies are so different and have already discussed elsewhere. Apologies if I misunderstood, but there's a relevant point in there somewhere!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on February 26, 2010, 08:37:19 PM
I'm not missing it, I understand it's his mission to secure for his legacy, a sort of Roger Corman/George Romero kind of status among film lovers and historians.
Please don't compare him to Roger Corman, he doesn't have 1% of the talent of Roger Corman....
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on February 26, 2010, 08:57:34 PM
I don't want to piss off Jimmy by insulting one of his favourite genres, but I find the bulk of the real Grindhouse material absolutely unwatchable.
As I've said previously how many of them have you seen? It's easy to dismiss something without checking it first1 and if for you the best era of the american film productions is unwatchable they're nothing I can say...

By the way grindhouse is a term who means absolutly nothing like torture porn, it's just the unofficial name of the 42nd street in New-York at the time. I watch sexploitation, roughies, white coat documentary, seventies hardcore, italian seventies and drive-in classic. Alll of them can be simply pack together with the term "independant films made in the sixties and seventies", not the crappy term grindhouse.

1. see Sophie I use your argument
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on February 26, 2010, 09:06:21 PM
I'm not missing it, I understand it's his mission to secure for his legacy, a sort of Roger Corman/George Romero kind of status among film lovers and historians.
Please don't compare him to Roger Corman, he doesn't have 1% of the talent of Roger Corman....

Sorry, but it was the only way to get my point across.  :-X

It's what he wants so badly.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on February 26, 2010, 09:16:26 PM
I don't want to piss off Jimmy by insulting one of his favourite genres, but I find the bulk of the real Grindhouse material absolutely unwatchable.
As I've said previously how many of them have you seen? It's easy to dismiss something without checking it first1 and if for you the best era of the american film productions is unwatchable they're nothing I can say...

By the way grindhouse is a term who means absolutly nothing like torture porn, it's just the unofficial name of the 42nd street in New-York at the time. I watch sexploitation, roughies, white coat documentary, seventies hardcore, italian seventies and drive-in classic. Alll of them can be simply pack together with the term "independant films made in the sixties and seventies", not the crappy term grindhouse.

1. see Sophie I use your argument

No, I do realise the versatility and I certainly haven't seen many, but as you yourself said elsewhere, informed decisions can be made from trailers. I always follow your threads, Jimmy, because you write great reviews and I'll consider anything, but in the end, only a couple caught my attention as ones I'd like to see. And call me a snob if you like, but when the sound is so bad I feel like I'm going to get a nosebleed, I'd rather watch Casablanca again!

I like some Corman films and Romero for definite, but because it was on TV the other night, I just recently tried once more to watch a Russ Meyer. To be honest, I can't quite remember which one it was... Beyond The Valley of The Dolls, I think. I just found it awful. I can appreciate it's appeal, but... urgh! No. Not for me!

And as I said before, Pam Grier in both Coffy and Foxy Brown. I felt they were very important films because they helped break Hollywood's racism to some degree, but I don't think they are actually aesthetically very good. Great plots, but just distastefully delivered. Pam may have been breaking prejudices on one side, but the scenes contrived to get her topless merely enforced another. :shrug:

I'd love to see Tarantino remake Coffy...  :bag: :tomato: :hysterical:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on February 26, 2010, 09:19:05 PM
Jon,

I could respond to every one of the points you have made, but  it would be fruitless. I'm never, ever going to sway you in your fascination with him, and you're never going to sway me. That is, until he releases something completely original and not targeting his mainstream demographic of young males between the ages of 15 - 30 year old males.

But I will ask you this question.

If you were to take this screenplay and make it with the same actors, in the same way as Tarantino has done, but instead of affixing Tarantino's name to it, you add say... David Lynch. Another director known for work that pushes the boundaries. Do you think, it too, would have been nominated for all these awards and received this kind of praise from the critics?
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on February 26, 2010, 09:20:53 PM
I'd love to see Tarantino remake Coffy...  :bag: :tomato: :hysterical:


DUCK EVERYBODY!!!!! :hysterical:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on February 26, 2010, 09:48:55 PM
No, I do realise the versatility and I certainly haven't seen many, but as you yourself said elsewhere, informed decisions can be made from trailers.
I've told it about the recent film trailers, not the sixties and seventies trailers... The old trailers are not the same at all than the new one who gives the best part of a movie.  

Jon, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls isn't the best way to start watching Meyer. But if you want to give him a real chance try Vixen, Supervixen, Faster Pussycat... Kill! Kill!, Common Law Cabin or Good Morning... and Goodbye!
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on February 26, 2010, 10:07:22 PM
I've told it about the recent film trailers, not the sixties and seventies trailers... The old trailers are not the same at all than the new one who gives the best part of a movie. 

Jon, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls isn't the best way to start watching Meyer. But if you want to give him a real chance try Vixen, Supervixen, Faster Pussycat... Kill! Kill!, Common Law Cabin or Good Morning... and Goodbye!

Would the inevitable conclusion be trying to watch Dolls again?  :fingerchew: ;D I know what you mean about trailers, but still, they are supposed to inspire you to see the movie and they really don't. Thanks for the mentions though, I will bear them in mind.

I could respond to every one of the points you have made, but  it would be fruitless. I'm never, ever going to sway you in your fascination with him, and you're never going to sway me. That is, until he releases something completely original and not targeting his mainstream demographic of young males between the ages of 15 - 30 year old males.

It is stalemate, though I wouldn't go so far as to say fascinated! It's just I enjoy his films, I go into them half knowing what I'm going to get, with an air of optimism. You on the other hand also half know what you're going to get, but probably have more of a sense of dread! As Achim said, it makes it rather hard to focus.

It reminds me of my Film Studies AS exam. Questions had resulted in essays written on the narrative and genre of The Ladykillers, and the mise en scene of Citizen Kane, then the social context of Billy Liar and Saturday Night Sunday Morning. All would turn out to be reasonably scored. Good job because I blew the last one! I can't remember the exact question, but it involved My Beautiful Laundrette. Oh god, I detest that film! I ended up writing what was probably an entertaining essay on just why it was so shit. Quite rightly, it scored zip. I couldn't find something good about that film if my life depended on it! I think they were looking for a balanced opinion.

But where would we be if we didn't believe in our convictions?  

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But I will ask you this question.

If you were to take this screenplay and make it with the same actors, in the same way as Tarantino has done, but instead of affixing Tarantino's name to it, you add say... David Lynch. Another director known for work that pushes the boundaries. Do you think, it too, would have been nominated for all these awards and received this kind of praise from the critics?

That's a loaded question!  :hmmmm: The director's name in such films brings so much baggage. If it was Lynch, critics would probably be very confused by it and it would fall by the wayside. Audiences though would probably reward him with a runaway hit! I suppose the most balanced reviewers would say not one for Lynch fans, but damn good fun. Still we have to accept awards are often contrived so I couldn't see Lynch being rewarded for it.

Of the directors you mentioned earlier, I think the Coen's could have got away with making it the same way and would have received masses of praise and awards. Critics would have seen irony in it and the Basterds as the ultimate version of their "idiot" films. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I'd like to see their take on it! :laugh:

What about if it had come out of nowhere with a director who had no recognisable form, or at least a reputation for being fairly conventional? I think if someone like Bryan Singer did it, he'd be congratulated, rewarded, but everyone would be so shocked, he'd never work again! Michael Powell, Peeping Tom style...
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on February 26, 2010, 10:10:26 PM
What about if it had come out of nowhere with a director who had no recognisable form, or at least a reputation for being fairly conventional? I think if someone like Bryan Singer did it, he'd be congratulated, rewarded, but everyone would be so shocked, he'd never work again! Michael Powell, Peeping Tom style...

I definitely agree with that! Love the Michael Powell reference. :bow: :laugh:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Kathy on February 26, 2010, 11:08:25 PM
I don't know why but reading Jon and Antares reminds me of watching the Mohammad Ali and Joe Foreman go 12 rounds.

For those of you too young to remember they were two extremely talented boxers. They were so different and yet they matched up perfectly. To watch them was artistry in motion.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: DJ Doena on February 26, 2010, 11:11:43 PM
For those of you too young to remember they were two extremely talented boxers.

That was at some time in the past millenia, wasn't it?


 :tease:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on February 26, 2010, 11:26:36 PM
I don't know why but reading Jon and Antares reminds me of watching the Mohammad Ali and Joe Foreman go 12 rounds.

Thanks Kathy, but it's Joe Frazier.

I'll gladly hang my hat with Frazier, he was a street brawler with the moxie to floor Ali back in their first fight.

For those of you too young to remember they were two extremely talented boxers. They were so different and yet they matched up perfectly. To watch them was artistry in motion.

Jon is the prime reason I love this forum. I post my reviews and await with baited breath, his response. I can have an intelligent discussion about films and film making and it never denigrates to below the belt stuff. Of all the people I've known and discussed cinema with in the last 25 years, his is the opinion I've respected the most.

Cheers Muhammad!  :cheers:

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Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Critter on February 26, 2010, 11:53:29 PM
That really was amazing to read. Once again I'm going to have to side with Jon on this one but that whole debate was fascinating. I knew it was going to be good but phew, neither of you want to back down your opinions and it makes for a great read.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on February 27, 2010, 02:54:26 AM
Well, thank you, Antares, that means a lot and I can honestly say the same of you.  :drunk: I have several offline friends interested in films to various degrees, but they are all lightweights compared to you! They only put up with my ramblings so far...  ;)

We've got a great international cross section of people on here and it's good we can all share yet have very different tastes. There aren't many such places where Jimmy could be so open about his collection on one page and find someone talking about monster movies or German TV on another. In the early days of this forum, there was a guy called himself Sailor Ripley. I believe he was a writer by profession and I think you'd have got on well with him too. Shame though, he hasn't been around for a long time.

I don't know why but reading Jon and Antares reminds me of watching the Mohammad Ali and Joe Foreman go 12 rounds.

Well, Joe somebody, but what the hey. No-one ever compared me to a boxer before! I'll take that...  :dance:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on March 09, 2011, 02:35:15 AM
Hey Kathy, did you know that today is the 40th anniversary of the first fight between Muhammad Ali & Joe Frazier?
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Kathy on March 09, 2011, 02:47:47 AM
Although I remember the fight, I didn't remember that it was so long ago. I really am getting old.

I have a good size collection of Ali fights - I haven't watched them in years - I'll have to see if this fight is one of them.

You bring back a lot of memories - I loved boxing since I was little.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on March 09, 2011, 02:50:19 AM
Although I remember the fight, I didn't remember that it was so long ago. I really am getting old.

I have a good size collection of Ali fights - I haven't watched them in years - I'll have to see if this fight is one of them.

You bring back a lot of memories - I loved boxing since I was little.

This fight was always a favorite of mine. Just seeing Ali get knocked on his ass and Frazier breaking his jaw with that left cross is priceless.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: samuelrichardscott on March 09, 2011, 04:32:30 AM
Jon, I know you say you didn't get much out of Coffy or Foxy Brown but please please please check out Black Mama, White Mama. It's Grier's most underrated IMO.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: hal9g on March 09, 2011, 05:13:38 AM
 :popcorn:

These discussions are second in entertainment only to actually watching my DVDs!   :hysterical:

Quite enjoyable!   :clap:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Alien Redrum on March 29, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
I love reading these debates. While I stand on Antares' side of the fence, Jon does bring up valid arguments.

Point of note, though, I truly feel Jackie Brown is Tarantino's best work because the source material (Elmore Leonard) was so fantastic. I would actually love to see Tarantino do more of Leonard's work.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on March 29, 2011, 11:10:44 PM
Write a pretentious review about how a film is overly pretentious....emmm ok. The film is suppose to be pretentious and flawed that's the point. It's a mix of high and low art.

And your not pointing out anything new with Tarantino and his prolific genre sampling. Did you suddenly expect him to stop this after almost 20 years?

It's so easy to be a total cynic about Tarantino. There not really suppose to be thinking mans films, but just a celebration of certain genres and films.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on March 29, 2011, 11:51:09 PM
Can someone tell me where that new ignore user feature is located? I can't find it.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on March 30, 2011, 12:01:28 AM
Can someone tell me where that new ignore user feature is located? I can't find it.
Here: http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs (http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs)

EDIT: Just tried it and it actually works
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on March 30, 2011, 12:06:28 AM
Can someone tell me where that new ignore user feature is located? I can't find it.
Here: http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs (http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs)

EDIT: Just tried it and it actually works

Thanks, works great
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Kathy on March 30, 2011, 12:19:09 AM
Can someone tell me where that new ignore user feature is located? I can't find it.
Here: http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs (http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs)

EDIT: Just tried it and it actually works

I didn't realize that we had that ability - thank you for the information.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on March 30, 2011, 12:24:05 AM
It's quite new.
Didn't even think I would need it, especially not that fast.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: RossRoy on March 30, 2011, 12:30:05 AM
I find it real sad that we even need a blocking feature. After all, we're a dvd collecting site for crying out loud! Not a <insert contentious subject> discussion site!

Oh well, guess anything can become contentious on the web after all...
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on March 30, 2011, 01:03:07 AM
I find it real sad that we even need a blocking feature. After all, we're a dvd collecting site for crying out loud! Not a <insert contentious subject> discussion site!

Oh well, guess anything can become contentious on the web after all...

Apparently having an opinion is frowned upon unless it conforms with the happy cute and fluffy cat and dog niceness. The kind of niceness where you lick my arse i will lick your arse bollocks that is more rampant than the aids virus and would make Barney the dinosaur sick on DVDProfiler.

Felt good to get that off my chest at last.

Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on March 30, 2011, 01:11:47 AM
It's called a "debate". Look it up and try engaging people instead. Else, why are you here?
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on March 30, 2011, 02:13:30 AM
It's called a "debate". Look it up and try engaging people instead. Else, why are you here?

I was engaging in a debate until he decided to block me.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Kathy on March 30, 2011, 02:33:39 AM
I find it real sad that we even need a blocking feature. After all, we're a dvd collecting site for crying out loud! Not a <insert contentious subject> discussion site!

Oh well, guess anything can become contentious on the web after all...

Apparently having an opinion is frowned upon unless it conforms with the happy cute and fluffy cat and dog niceness. The kind of niceness where you lick my arse i will lick your arse bollocks that is more rampant than the aids virus and would make Barney the dinosaur sick on DVDProfiler.

Felt good to get that off my chest at last.

I don't understand how, after 3 posts, you could have something on your chest that you needed to get rid of.

I have no problems with people having opinions, even ones that I don't agree with.

But, as a new member I find it a bit unsettling that you felt it appropriate to call people names and insult them.




Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on March 30, 2011, 03:03:58 AM
I find it real sad that we even need a blocking feature. After all, we're a dvd collecting site for crying out loud! Not a <insert contentious subject> discussion site!

Oh well, guess anything can become contentious on the web after all...

Apparently having an opinion is frowned upon unless it conforms with the happy cute and fluffy cat and dog niceness. The kind of niceness where you lick my arse i will lick your arse bollocks that is more rampant than the aids virus and would make Barney the dinosaur sick on DVDProfiler.

Felt good to get that off my chest at last.

I don't understand how, after 3 posts, you could have something on your chest that you needed to get rid of.

I have no problems with people having opinions, even ones that I don't agree with.

But, as a new member I find it a bit unsettling that you felt it appropriate to call people names and insult them.






I never named names. It's more collective attitude than any one individual. That's just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Alien Redrum on March 30, 2011, 03:28:30 AM
Can someone tell me where that new ignore user feature is located? I can't find it.
Here: http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs (http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php?action=profile;sa=pmprefs)

EDIT: Just tried it and it actually works

 :cheers:

Thank you.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Blair on March 30, 2011, 04:03:45 AM
It's called a "debate". Look it up and try engaging people instead. Else, why are you here?

If you'd known him as long as some of us have, you wouldn't need to ask that question.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on March 30, 2011, 10:34:52 AM
It's called a "debate". Look it up and try engaging people instead. Else, why are you here?

I was engaging in a debate until he decided to block me.
So what?
I'm not aware of any law that forces us to engage in a debate.
You have the freedom to post whatever you like, we have the freedom to happily ignore it.

BTW: Other than Invelos, we don't tolerate trolls here. So if your behaviour doesn't improve immensely you'll most likely be the first user to get a permanent ban.
(Hell, there are already bets on how long it will take)
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on March 30, 2011, 06:01:24 PM
It's called a "debate". Look it up and try engaging people instead. Else, why are you here?

I was engaging in a debate until he decided to block me.
So what?
I'm not aware of any law that forces us to engage in a debate.
You have the freedom to post whatever you like, we have the freedom to happily ignore it.

BTW: Other than Invelos, we don't tolerate trolls here. So if your behaviour doesn't improve immensely you'll most likely be the first user to get a permanent ban.
(Hell, there are already bets on how long it will take)

I wasn't denying he had the right to. Just i was trying to engage in a debate till he decided to blocked me. And another point if you have been watching films for 40 odd years.

You think you would have learned not to give away half the story when reviewing a film.

Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on March 30, 2011, 07:58:42 PM
Antares was criticising the film, not reviewing it. How much story is discussed depends on the difference. Beware a magazine like Sight And Sound who will report on an entire plot.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on March 30, 2011, 08:55:30 PM
Antares was criticising the film, not reviewing it. How much story is discussed depends on the difference. Beware a magazine like Sight And Sound who will report on an entire plot.

Last time i checked this forum was for Movie Reviews to be posted in.

Also if it's not a review why did he give the film a rating out of 5.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on March 30, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
Antares was criticising the film, not reviewing it. How much story is discussed depends on the difference. Beware a magazine like Sight And Sound who will report on an entire plot.

Last time i checked this forum was for Movie Reviews to be posted in.

Also if it's not a review why did he give the film a rating out of 5.

Last time I checked I was one of several people who contribute a lot of time to this forum, so no need to tell me what it's 'for', thanks all the same. Stop being pedantic. A star rating is still relevant if he wished it to be so. This is a small community of users who understand each other and he wrote this specifically to generate a discussion, in particular with me, as we had debated the merits or lack of in Tarantino movies before. He was not trying to encourage people to see the film, but to de-construct it with those that had. Some articles are more in depth than others for this reason.

Look, you've posted some stuff elsewhere that has value, so I'm trying to talk to you as the sensible person I'm sure you are. Please, just walk away from this thread, because all you're doing is picking on the writer of the original topic, not the subject.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on March 30, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
Antares was criticising the film, not reviewing it. How much story is discussed depends on the difference. Beware a magazine like Sight And Sound who will report on an entire plot.

Last time i checked this forum was for Movie Reviews to be posted in.

Also if it's not a review why did he give the film a rating out of 5.
Last time I checked I was one of several people who contribute a lot of time to this forum, so no need to tell me what it's 'for', thanks all the same. Stop being pedantic. A star rating is still relevant if he wished it to be so. This is a small community of users who understand each other and he wrote this specifically to generate a discussion, in particular with me, as we had debated the merits or lack of in Tarantino movies before. He was not trying to encourage people to see the film, but to de-construct it with those that had. Some articles are more in depth than others for this reason.

Look, you've posted some stuff elsewhere that has value, so I'm trying to talk to you as the sensible person I'm sure you are. Please, just walk away from this thread, because all you're doing is picking on the writer of the original topic, not the subject.

Well i guess your right about it seems im picking on him a bit. But then again im not the kind of person who thinks just cause they are older than someone they deem self wiser. And if this was suppose to be between the two of you, i don't know why you did not use the PM function and argue to your hearts content.

With all that said i will respect your wishes and not post another post in this thread after this.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on April 01, 2011, 02:59:55 AM
I didn't realize that we had that ability - thank you for the information.
It's because you don't read my post :redcard:
I'm the one who asked it some weeks ago. It was just for one guy, he haven't return since than and I doubt he will ever came back here... To be honest he is not a great lost.


Of course my first phrase wasn't serious ;D
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on April 01, 2011, 03:07:03 AM
If you'd known him as long as some of us have, you wouldn't need to ask that question.
Finally I know who he is :laugh:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on April 01, 2011, 03:16:43 AM
He actually spent a good deal of time clicking the -1 point link just to get me to -2,000, what a sad, pathetic little Scotsman. No wonder they were so easily subjugated by the Brits. Little tasks for little minds.  :thumbdown:

For your information VirtualTurd, no one cares about that part of the forum.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on April 01, 2011, 03:35:28 AM
Maybe he (FilmAlba) try to be the first user to be ban here :shrug:

Seriously, VirtualScot/FilmAlba/Skip try to behave yourself a little bit more. 

Starting a career on a forum by calling a respected long time member a pretentious writer, not taking the time to read the old messages to know what a forum is about, playing childish game and telling other respected members to use PM isn't the way it works here.

You're lucky I ain't a moderator since this kind of behaviour deserve a serious warning and I wouldn't hesitate one second to gave it to you. But since I ain't (at least not in this part of the forum) only two user can do it...

Normally what you do is to open a topic in the new user sub-forum to tell a little bit about you first after you try to behave and get the general vibe of the place.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Dragonfire on April 01, 2011, 04:57:00 AM
If you'd known him as long as some of us have, you wouldn't need to ask that question.
Finally I know who he is :laugh:

I still don't know who he is.  I must have missed something.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on April 01, 2011, 05:06:00 AM
Blair is one of those Spotters and we know who was the troublemaker there who followed them later on the forum of Sam to be banned countless time.

But this is who he is Marie... Click me and you will find (http://www.invelos.com/UserProfile.aspx?alias=skip) ;D
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Dragonfire on April 01, 2011, 05:09:54 AM
Ahh.  Ok.
Well then that explains what happened to this thread.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Kathy on April 01, 2011, 06:56:11 AM
He actually spent a good deal of time clicking the -1 point link just to get me to -2,000, what a sad, pathetic little Scotsman. No wonder they were so easily subjugated by the Brits. Little tasks for little minds.  :thumbdown:

For your information VirtualTurd, no one cares about that part of the forum.

I was going to try and get you back to where your were but my fingers hurt after getting you into the -1500. Don't worry Antares - you know how much we care for you here.

I forgot all about those numbers - since we seldom use them maybe Karsten will get rid of them. To waste so much time giving all those negative votes -
I find that act to be quite childish.

 Virtual Scot - if you wish to be a member of this forum please stop the negativity and nastiness you have been posting.

I quite enjoyed your reviews and hope you will post those types of things in the future.

Please forget about the past and make a fresh start here. Otherwise I'm afraid everyone will end up blocking or ignoring you.

So, to new beginings. I'll start - Welcome to the forums.  :cheers:




Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on April 01, 2011, 07:34:57 AM
Kathy always our voice of reason :thumbup:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Achim on April 01, 2011, 07:39:55 AM
I forgot all about those numbers - since we seldom use them maybe Karsten will get rid of them. To waste so much time giving all those negative votes -
I find that act to be quite childish.
Actually, I'd second ther motion. I wouldn't mind to see it disappear as well.


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So, to new beginings. I'll start - Welcome to the forums.  :cheers:
This is the kind of things why I love you :thumbsup:, you always do awesome things like this.

I'll second that as well.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Najemikon on April 01, 2011, 08:42:22 AM
Karsten can sort out the points very easily without removing the function...  ;)
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: kahless on April 01, 2011, 08:52:25 AM
I forgot all about those numbers - since we seldom use them maybe Karsten will get rid of them. To waste so much time giving all those negative votes -
I find that act to be quite childish.
Actually, I'd second ther motion. I wouldn't mind to see it disappear as well.


Quote
So, to new beginings. I'll start - Welcome to the forums.  :cheers:
This is the kind of things why I love you :thumbsup:, you always do awesome things like this.

I'll second that as well.

Agree!!  :thumbup:

Edit:
I scored up to below 1.000 but now my mouse is steaming....
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on April 01, 2011, 09:24:46 AM
That's nice i get it in the ear for apparently picking on a user. He then makes a post to try and deliberately provoke me with the intention of getting me banned, and apparently im the bad guy in all this.

These double standards are a joke. If your going to make a rule apply it everyone not just me.

Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on April 01, 2011, 10:33:24 AM
So, to new beginings. I'll start - Welcome to the forums.  :cheers:
While I see your point, I'm not sure if this helps.

Time will tell.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: DJ Doena on April 01, 2011, 01:18:09 PM
Karsten can sort out the points very easily without removing the function...  ;)

 :whistle:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on April 01, 2011, 02:27:36 PM
Karsten can sort out the points very easily without removing the function...  ;)

 :whistle:

Thanks Karsten, but it wasn't necessary. I don't hold any special fondness for that function of the forum anyway. I was just trying to point out what we can expect from this troubled kid. He did this kind of trolling at the DVDSpot, BPR and DVDTalk forums and was subsequently banned from each of those forums in a matter of just a few weeks. If Ken had the balls to ban someone, he'd have been banned at Invelos also. I'm surprised Sam hasn't chimed in yet about him.  :headscratch:

You know what's really sad? I figure he spent close to two hours just clicking that link to get me there. I guess I'm his new TGM.

Sam, Blair and Alien will know what that means. ;) :laugh:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: DJ Doena on April 01, 2011, 03:32:26 PM
Took me 5 seconds to open you profile and set the negative votes from 2383 back to 0. What you see now is just your positives votes made by Kathy and others. ;)
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: hal9g on April 01, 2011, 03:56:32 PM
He actually spent a good deal of time clicking the -1 point link just to get me to -2,000........

How totally childish!
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on April 01, 2011, 04:00:44 PM
Took me 5 seconds to open you profile and set the negative votes from 2383 back to 0. What you see now is just your positives votes made by Kathy and others. ;)

Then my thanks to those good people.  :cheers:

How much time do you think he'll waste getting it back to where it was?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on April 01, 2011, 04:01:21 PM
He actually spent a good deal of time clicking the -1 point link just to get me to -2,000........

How totally childish!

No...how terribly trollish  ;)
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on April 01, 2011, 04:34:53 PM
These double standards are a joke. If your going to make a rule apply it everyone not just me.
Yesterday I told you to behave, stop acting like a child and start to act like an adult. This is not the DVDP forum here and you were the one searching the trouble. Usually Karsten is very patient (too much if you ask me) but don't push your luck too much or he (or another moderator) will loose his patience very fast).

I'm sure you can contribute better thing than that, so try again with a better attitude in the future and I'm sure you will be more than welcome here.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Blair on April 02, 2011, 01:00:32 AM
You know what's really sad? I figure he spent close to two hours just clicking that link to get me there. I guess I'm his new TGM.
:laugh: It was about time TGM got brought into this! :laugh:


I'm all for second chances; I've given second, third, fourth, and fifth chances to some people who I was told I shouldn't waste one more moment on. So... here's hoping.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Antares on April 02, 2011, 01:47:45 AM
You know what's really sad? I figure he spent close to two hours just clicking that link to get me there. I guess I'm his new TGM.
:laugh: It was about time TGM got brought into this! :laugh:

I was waiting for one of you to comment.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on April 02, 2011, 11:10:49 PM
Someone must like me. My score went from minus 20 something to 1.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Jimmy on April 03, 2011, 01:19:56 AM
You do realize it isn't an important feature or a feature who means anything? A reputation here came from what you write and how you act, not from a number or the number of star you have near your alias.
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on April 03, 2011, 01:30:15 AM
You do realize it isn't an important feature or a feature who means anything? A reputation here came from what you write and how you act, not from a number or the number of star you have near your alias.

Im confused why ppl even use it then.

If ppl don't find any value in it why have apparently 50 ppl clicked my score up?
Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: Kathy on April 03, 2011, 01:38:23 AM
We used to use it a lot in the beginning but not so much any more. I do give lots of pluses to new people because that's when I remember to use it.

But, like invelos' rating, it really doesn't mean anything. It's there if you want to use it and I should give more out because I often like the posts I read.

Title: Re: Inglourious Basterds (2009)
Post by: VirtualScot on April 03, 2011, 01:44:52 AM
We used to use it a lot in the beginning but not so much any more. I do give lots of pluses to new people because that's when I remember to use it.

But, like invelos' rating, it really doesn't mean anything. It's there if you want to use it and I should give more out because I often like the posts I read.



Well was just saying it's dismissed as being irrelevant by a few yet 50 ppl clicked positively on me?

Just thought someone was pulling my leg. Or maybe someone likes my reviews  :laugh: