General => Hardware => Topic started by: Eric on November 06, 2011, 05:18:02 PM
Title: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 06, 2011, 05:18:02 PM
I'm tired of the bad graphics that my PC gives me and I want to improve that so I'm looking at my options. The simplest and cheapest way would be to buy a better video card but one thing I dislike with PC versions of games is that they always come out months after the console versions. I don't want to play the next Assassin's creed 6 months after everyone else has finished it :)
So.............I think I'm gonna buy a console but have no idea what to buy, the last and only one I ever own was the first Nintendo console so my knowledge on the matter may be slightly oudated. I'm hoping that the gamers here will help me decided.
Here's what I've found so far.
XBOX 360 Slim Pros: I don't think I need a Hard Disk (no online gaming) so I could save 100$ with the 4Gb model. I like the controller, I have one for the PC and I find it very comfortable and easy to use.
Cons: No BluRay drive Has a power pack Only works with MS proprietary hard disk.
One thing I'm not sure about is that I keep seing posts and reviews stating it doesn't support HD out of box but it has an HDMI connector so I don't know what this is about.
PS3 Slim Pros: Blu Ray player No power pack User replaceable hard drive
Cons: It's made by Sony, meaning someone in Russia will be using my CC within days after purchasing ;D The controller looks "squarry" and "bulky", I wonder if it's as comfortable as the xBox one. No IR receiver so only Bluetooth remotes will work when using it to play bluray's Their slim version seems much bigger than MS's slim version (probably because MS uses an external power pack)
If someone knows what's the story about HD capabilities of the Xbox I would really appreciate because as of now I'm really leaning toward the 4GB. I don't think I need to spend an extra 100$ on the PS3 for a bluray player that I will most probably never use.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 06, 2011, 06:19:24 PM
Well I bought a PS3 mainly because of the Blu-Ray, so I'd encourage you to open your mind to the idea it could replace your current player. Sony used Blu-Ray for the PS3 despite it meaning they were selling the consoles for less than they could make them for, simply to give the format a boost. Their player is one of the best available for the money. However you should also remember that the PC is a much better gaming system overall with superior graphics and gameplay, especially for first person shooters. Have you actually tried the consoles? Do you know if they suit you at all? I too have the Windows X-Box controller and find little difference between that and my PS3 one. Also the bluetooth remote for Blu-Ray is fantastic. Why doesn't everyone use it instead of infra-red? It's much better! :P
I know what you mean about the release dates. I'm suffering right now because of Batman Arkham City being out for a month on consoles. :( That's rare though in the sense that I very rarely care about getting a game on release day and to be honest, I haven't seen the delay happen very often.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 06, 2011, 06:47:31 PM
My current player is my HTPC actually, I use either Total Media Theatre or XBMC, depending on what I watch and got my Harmony One remote to work very well with both of them. I really don't think I would use the PS3 Bluray player.
I'm surprised by your statement that graphics on PC is better than consoles, I thought that would require very high-end and expensive graphics cards. Right now I'm using the onboard ATI RADEON 4500 graphics chip. Are you implying/suggesting that an upgrade of the graphics card could be better thatn buying a console ?
For the games, the only ones I played in the last few years is the Assassin's creed series and they always come out on PC much later than consoles, although I'll grant you that it's annoying but hardly the end of the world.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 06, 2011, 07:55:06 PM
I'm sure the AC releases have been at the same time in the UK, but I never bought them on release day anyway.
The PC is the cutting edge of video game graphics, not the console. I would absolutely consider an upgrade, if the rest of your computer is capable of handling it. My quad core based PC is several years old, but it'll easily handle and benefit from the Nvidia GeForce GFX 560 ti I've just ordered for it. ;) And it promises to look gorgeous. I have Deus Ex and it just can't handle it, but it will once that baby is installed! I think your card is about 3 years old? Your PC should be able to upgrade to a newer card like the 560. Perhaps the only other consideration would be RAM (I'm at 4gb) and power supply (graphics cards typically need 550w+ these days).
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 06, 2011, 07:59:19 PM
I'm not sure exactly how good this guys video is considered as a test, but I find I agree with the overall impression, so it's good enough for me and my point! :laugh:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: RossRoy on November 06, 2011, 08:08:59 PM
I'll throw my completely biased opinion out there (never actually played the PS3 .. so make of that what you will ..)
IN my opinion, first and foremost, you have to look at the exclusives of each console one vs the other. Which console has the exclusives you want to play the most?
Then, the controller. From what I can see, the PS3 controller isn't much different physically that it was for PS2 .. and I hate the PS2 controller when compared to the Xbox controller. Until something better comes out, I think the Xbox controller is pretty much the best there is.
On the HD video side of things, I think what they mean by the Xbox not being compatible with it "out of the box" is that it doesn't come with an HDMI cable (I think PS3 does come with an HDMI cable, right?). Just make sure to get an HDMI cable (or VGA cable or whatever you need to plug it into your TV) and you'll be fine.
Personally, I now loathe PC gaming. Not because of the games themselves, not because of the controls, or because of the graphics of whatever. It's all because of DRM. I'm not against DRM, but just look at the recent Battlefield 3 release, or many of the more recent and popular Ubisoft games, and you'll know what I mean. Countless people are unable to play their games because the DRM is broken. Even pirate have a better experience than those who bought the game!! Xbox and PS3? Just stick the disc in and of you go. Server online or not, you can play.
Just a side note on the 4GB Xbox model .. If you are planning on getting ... can't remember the game, but I think it's Battlefield 3, or maybe Modern Warfare .. I don't remember which .. but you need to install the high resolution texture pack on the hard drive or else the game looks like crap! i mean Nintendo 64 crap level, look it up.. I also really like the convenience of Games On Demand and Installing games to the hard drive, but it's in no way necessary.
So yeah, personally I'd go for Xbox.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 06, 2011, 08:21:25 PM
Well, like I said, I have no real opinion about the controllers. DRM is a problem, but not one I've personally fell foul of and I love Steam as a delivery platform. I think it's superb. On the very rare occasions my Internet has failed, I've not been trying to play a game anyway! :laugh:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: RossRoy on November 06, 2011, 08:30:02 PM
The best example of broken DRM I have is happening right now, and it's with Dragon Age: Origins.
When you buy the game new, there are a few codes in there for bonus content that you redeem on EA's server (not on Xbox Live!) so you need EA's servers to download the things, and to "authorize" the content.
Thing is, the game is a few years old now, so EA is doing "load balancing" and giving priority to Madden, NHL, Battlefield, whatever other recent games need server access. I will often get the message that "EA's server are not available" only to click connect a few seconds later and have it go through. You could argue it was an isolated incident, but seeing as it's been going on for the last 2 weeks at least, and from searches on the web, it is common.
On Xbox, I authorized all that content ages ago, and it works perfectly.
My friend, who recently bought it for PC, cannot play unless EA's servers are there because the content needs to be reauthorized all the time. If you ask me, this is bullshit. The pirated version of this content is readily available, and just works! Because my friend wants to be "legal", he can't access the stuff he paid for, while pirates are playing it without a hitch? .. it just baffles me. That's why I've stopped buying games on PC, except on Steam, Good Old Games or the indie bundles which are DRM free. I will not buy a DRM riddled game anymore.
Thing is it plays right into the distributor hands of moving players to consoles instead of PC ...
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 06, 2011, 08:32:53 PM
.. but you need to install the high resolution texture pack on the hard drive or else the game looks like crap! i mean
Maybe that's what the guys meant when they said no HD out of the box, I think I was ready a post about the 4GB without a hard drive which means, you'd have to buy the external drive to be able to install the HD pack
Seb, maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand the issue with DRM. Once you bought the DVD, whether it's PC, XBOX or PS3 what's the difference ?
Jon, my video card has no age because I don't have one, I'm using onboard graphics right now, it's a RADEON HD4200. It's good enough to play HD movies flawleslly but for games I really need to use low graphics settings and it still can't handle it.
I'm pretty sure my PC could handle anything if I upgraded the graphics card, it's a 2.40 GHz triple core Phenom with 4 gigs or RAM. I've been looking at video cards, I'm a big fan of fanless, I don't want to hear any fan spinning when I watch a movie so my choices are limited but I think this baby would do the work.
I wouldn't mind getting something better but I'll to check if my power supply has the guts for it.
Edit: DRM issue was clarified while I was posting. I haven't had a problem with this either except for Assasin's creed being slow to launch when the server is offline. That didn't happen often and it's only a dealy of a few seconds, once the game starts loading it still plays well. But I do understand the issue and how annoying it can be
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 06, 2011, 08:38:34 PM
This is my PSU, I think I'm good enough for any graphics card I want :)
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 06, 2011, 08:42:26 PM
Hell yeah, that's enough of a beast! These days fanless graphics cards are impossible, but the Asus ones are particularly known for being quiet. Personally I find my PSU drowns out the noise of the other fans anyway! :laugh:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: RossRoy on November 06, 2011, 08:43:59 PM
Seb, maybe I'm missing something but I don't understand the issue with DRM. Once you bought the DVD, whether it's PC, XBOX or PS3 what's the difference ?
On Xbox and PS3, you put the disc in. Whether you are online or not doesn't matter. The game will play.
On PC, a lot of games these days require a constant internet connection to even play. If you try to launch the game while you are offline, no game for you, even if the game is single player. Now, you might be thinking "so what? my PC is always online anyway" .. that's when the issue of availability rears its head. Take my Dragon Age example above. Now that EA's server are balancing the load and refusing connections for Dragon Age, some content will not work. And your savegame will be unaccessible because that content couldn't be authorized at the launch of the game, because it checks the validity on every launch.
Now, keep in mind a lot of people don't ever experience these DRM issues (like Jon it seems!) but I've personally been burned, and seen friends get burned, enough times by DRM that I will never buy a DRM'd game ever again if I can help it.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: RossRoy on November 06, 2011, 08:47:08 PM
Oh and not to scare you or anything but, if I remember correctly, Assassin's Creed is a Ubisoft game, right?
Google "ubisoft drm" and be amazed ..
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 06, 2011, 09:15:05 PM
Honestly Seb, I played AC, AC-II and AC Brotherhood on PC and never had any problem except, as I said, a short delay sometimes if the server is down when the launcher tries to check for updates.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: RossRoy on November 06, 2011, 09:30:41 PM
I know a lot of people never experience problems, but like I said, I've had enough problems with it, and I've had people around have enough problems with it to completely avoid it in the future.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 06, 2011, 09:37:41 PM
Now of course you know what's gonna happen. I'll buy a high-end graphics card for the price of a console and I'm gonna start having problems with DRM every time I try to play...........................
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 06, 2011, 09:40:16 PM
BTW I forgot to say................I saw an add for Batman Arkham City on Newegg this morning and even without looking into it I know it's one I'm gonna buy.....................either with nice graphics 3 months after others or with bad graphics on release date...........................
Maybe I should go with the xbox just to get that game before Jon :tease:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Achim on November 07, 2011, 05:52:03 AM
Batman: Arkham City is a great game.
I own a PS3, bought it for the Blu-ray player, then got "a little" into gaming. I have never even held an XBOX controller, but the asymmetric look does not appeal to me :shrug: I understand the triggers are better though :headscratch:
If it is about games, then I agree with Seb. Look at the games that only one console has and decide which exclusives you'd rather play. Think you might like Uncharted...? Or rather get into Gears of War...?
When PSN had the outage, because someone had taken away the CC infos, it came to light that a few games on the PS3 also need a constant internet connection to work. But I believe it was more about Japanese companies, like Sega or Konami...?
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 07, 2011, 02:13:42 PM
Do you guys know anything about core clock and memory clock ? I'm looking at 2 HIS cards, a 6570 and a 6670.
Which is better, faster core or faster memory ? There's also another model which has a much slower memory at only 1000 MHz but it has 2 gigs as opposed to 1 for the other two. Again, which is better, a fast 1GB or a slow 2GB ?
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Mustrum_Ridcully on November 07, 2011, 02:44:53 PM
What would you want to use them for?
Basically you can say that Core-clock beats Multiplier. On graphic cards in this class 1 Gig of RAM would suffice, 2 Gig may sound better but brings no improvement on DDR3 systems.
Nevertheless all three only should be used for older games. Games like "Battlefield 3" will hardly be playable, at least not with all graphics switched on. If you want to use them as output-device for a HTPC all three should easily match the requirements.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: W0m6at on November 07, 2011, 03:21:25 PM
I haven't read this thread properly (only skimmed), but if the PS3 controller annoys you too much (assuming you go the PS3 route), you can get Xbox-styled controllers for it now.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 07, 2011, 07:00:32 PM
Actually, I'm not entirely unhappy with my current quality, it's not great but it's good enough for me. The only reason I want to improve is because video is slower than audio during animation. When there's an animated scene in Assassin's creed the video always keeps playing a while after the audio has finished. The longer the scene, the longer the difference and sometimes I have to spend up to 10 seconds waiting for the video to "catch up".
I really wouldn't mind buying a high end card but I will absolutely not have a card with a fan, games are not important enough for me to sacrifice the pleasure of watching movies in a noise free environment. As for the games, I'm gonna get Assasin's Creed Revelations (which, unlike "Brotherhood", will be released at the same time as PS3 and xBox versiions in a week) and most probably Batman: Arkham City.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 07, 2011, 07:54:55 PM
I think I'm gonna get this baby...........................................I just have to pull out the tape measure and see if it will fit in my case before ordering :hysterical:
My mobo and the onboard chip support Hybrid crossfirex, I wonder if it's worth enabling it once I get the card.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 07, 2011, 09:10:52 PM
That should do the trick! It's DDR5, so you're onto the proper chipset and fanless? You've done well there if so. I'm always wary of those dual crossover options, but if you've got it, you might as well test it. :thumbup:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 07, 2011, 09:50:25 PM
I watched a video about how to choose a video card and the guy said that the most important is the number of stream processing units (also called shaders). These are the things that do the actual rendering and regardless of the core clock/ memory clock speed, if the stream processing units is low you will not get good results.
Assuming he know what he's talking about, it becomse obvious that a <100$ with 480 stream processing units won't give me super great results so I looked for something better and, considering I absolute want it fanless, I think I should be happy I found that one.
As for CrossFireX, I will try it but I think it will actually slow it down. What I read when running it with cards at different speeds is that either one card will overclock itself or the other one will "underclock" to get to the same speed. Obviously, my onboard HD 4200 will never overclock enough to match the 6770 with DDR5 so, if I understand this correctly, my mid-end card will slow down so much that I will be better off without CrossFireX at all.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 08, 2011, 03:25:45 AM
I ordered that Gigabyte card. Thanks to you all for the help.
Now I have one big problem left..............Assassin's Creed Revelations and Batman Arkham City are both supposed to come out on Nov. 15......................which one do I get first ?
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Achim on November 08, 2011, 05:15:58 AM
Batman!
Although, I remember you played (some of) the previous AC game(s)...? Have you play Arkham Asylum?
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 08, 2011, 12:43:06 PM
I played the first three Assassin's Creed. The last thing I ever played before that was the "Myst" series. I haven't played Arkham Asylum, do I want to get it before Arkham City ?
Edit: Nevermind, it's only 20$ on Steam, I created an account and bought it, downloading now.
P.S: How does Steam work exactly, it looks like it's going to install the game on my machine, not just download an ISO file. Can I backup the downloaded file in case I need to reinstall ?
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: RossRoy on November 08, 2011, 01:56:56 PM
P.S: How does Steam work exactly, it looks like it's going to install the game on my machine, not just download an ISO file. Can I backup the downloaded file in case I need to reinstall ?
Steam is a sort of Game Vault. You can download and reinstall as many times as you wish. But it is possible to backup the downloaded game for future use.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 08, 2011, 09:11:06 PM
Steam installs the game locally as if you had the cd, but updates it automatically. If you buy a retail game Steam will often accept the code straightaway and in some cases, you stick the cd in and it installs Steam first. In all cases it enables you on share your username wih friends and manage achievements.
By the way, what is your username? ;)
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 09, 2011, 02:19:52 AM
Well, my real name is Eric Gagne but EricGagne was already taken so I decided to show the extents of my imagination and I'm GagneEric :tomato:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 09, 2011, 11:41:52 PM
I seee yoooooo! :tease:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 13, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
Are games available on release date on Steam ? I'm not sure I want to pre-order it there because they say it's gonna be available November 2011 but they don't specify the day. I'm wondering if it will be the 15 or if they need time to convert or adapt it for their platform.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 14, 2011, 12:56:08 AM
No, they don't usually have anything to convert as such. If anything, games are delivered faster on Steam. If you pre-order a title, it sometimes downloads a day or so early and then unlocks at midnight.
A friend of mine ordered Skyrim from someone online, probably Amazon or Play. They try to despatch the titles so they arrive on the day and indeed he got it the day before. He installed it, but Steam was locked as it wasn't due in the UK until the following day. He then found out that Australia's release date was that day, so he changed the language in Steam and it unlocked! :laugh: He was a bit desperate...
If you're talking about Batman, the only word of caution I'd say is that something weird is going on with this PC release, so if it is delayed, it's unlikely to be Steam. I've had several titles from new on there and they all unlocked dead on time.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 14, 2011, 01:03:47 AM
I'm not talking about Batman, I forgot to name to game in my post but it's Assassin's Creed Revelations. I don't want to wait for it 1 more minute than I have to :)
Batman ? I don't know if I still want to buy it. I got Arkham Asylum on Steam and to be honest I'm disappointed.
First, the introductory clip is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGG. Twenty minutes before you can start playing, that's ridiculous.
Then I found the dialogs in that introduction to be more suited for kids, this is a Batman thing so I know I can't expect content like AC but still, does it have to be that dumb ?
Those two things alone wouldn't be enough to stop me but so far I found the game itself somewhat boring. Something happens in the Asylum, you move batman there, you turn on Detection Mode and then it highlights things that you need to do.
It's a bit to "streamlined" for my taste, I like games like AC when you don't absolutely have to follow a predefined sequence. I'm sure I'll play more to see if it gets better but if it doesn't I don't think I'll spend 50$ on the next one.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 14, 2011, 01:22:34 AM
How much do you like Batman in general? Or comics for that matter. The dialogue is basic, but it embraces the silliness of the original concept and for fans, there's a lot to love. The characterisation and respect for the history is beyond superb. It's full of details and back-story that they don't even force feed you. When you pick up one of the bios of a minor guard for instance, you realise this minor guard was a character in the comics and would go on to become some villain or whatever. One of them is missing a hand and Joker's taking the piss out of him for it, but it's only when you get the bio you find out he had all this history to him. And the narrative has some tricks up its sleeve. The Scarecrow sections are very different.
So for Bat-fans, it's awesome. The intro is long, but... well I liked it. Hey, to me Half-Life was the pinnacle of game play and that had a twenty minute start on a train in Black Mesa!
In terms of the actual game, well the combat is good, the hidden areas fun and there are puzzles that get tougher, especially if you go after the achievements. Also in the early sections you are moving from one area to another, but although it stays linear, you might feel better when it's worn in because you revisit areas at random. Clearing out the hospital section for instance is interesting.
Hold on. You're calling Batman boring, but waiting for Assassin's Creed? Three times I've tried to play that damn game. Three! It's so dull and incredible repetitive. I love the look of the game, but the story is so thin.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 14, 2011, 03:02:43 AM
It's all a matter of taste I guess. Three times you tried to play Assassin's Creed and didn't like it, I played all three releases and loved them all.
But as I said, I'm not ready to trash Batman yet, I haven't even played for 1 hour total yet, for all I know I'll love it next time I post about it.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: RossRoy on November 14, 2011, 03:08:31 AM
I have both the first AC and Batman Askham Asylum here .. never really could get into either game. Thought I must admit I didn't give AC much of a chance .. something else came out at about the same time and I played that (can't remember what it was though)
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Achim on November 14, 2011, 05:38:07 AM
The dialog in the Batman games is quite terrible, especially from the man himself. No matter it's based on teh comic books or not. It got worse with the second game, I think.
However, I am not playing this for the dialog, really, I can live with the hammy delivery. I did enjoy the gameplay a lot and even if I no chance for myself to ever completze all of those challenges, the game itself was fun. Yes, the first game is almost played in Detective mode entirely, this has eased up a bit in Arkham City and the players feel compelled more to turn it off every once in a while :laugh:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 14, 2011, 05:46:41 PM
I received my new graphics card this morning............................this thing is huge.....................I hope it's gonna fit in my case :fingerchew:
Can't wait to test it though :gamer:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Achim on November 15, 2011, 05:05:39 AM
:laugh:
I remember buying a graphics card for my Mac so that I could install Steam. I had the same concerns but ultimately could squeeze it in.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 15, 2011, 11:48:37 PM
The new card is installed, my Windows performance index on graphics jumped from 4.2 to 7.4, I tested it with Assassin's Creed II and the graphics are just amazing, much better than I expected.
My only problem is that the PC version of Assassin's Creed Revelations will only be released on the 29 while the Xbox and the PS3 ones are out today.......................................................
:voodoo: -> Ubisoft
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Achim on November 16, 2011, 05:39:15 AM
Good to hear you got a strong improvement on your card!
That is the price the PC players usually have to pay for their higher resolution and other advantages. Many games get a slightly later release on PC, but sometimes even several months... :thumbup:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 18, 2011, 11:00:18 PM
We have the WRUP topic, I think I'll start the WYNGTP (What You'll Never Get To Play) one.
So I buy this great video card because I want to make sure I can play Assassin's Creed Revelations as soon as it's released on November 15 and I pre-order it on Steam.
Then comes November 15 but I can't download it so I dig a little and it turns out that the PC version will only be released on November 29 >:(
Then today, I'm told that on November 27 I'm leaving for NYC where I'm gonna work for two weeks, coming back on December 9 so I won't be able to download it and start playing before December 10 >:( >:(
But then, that's only 2 weeks before Christmas and my sister who's receiving us just moved into a new house and will need help to get all her stuff organized on time so it doesn't look like I'll be able to play before the Christmas break. >:( >:( >:(
But wait.....................I just started on a new job for a new company, this year I won't have a )*$R*()&$(* Christmas break >:( >:( >:( >:(
WYNGTP...................In my case it looks like it's Assassin's Creed Revelations.........................I think I'm being punished for not liking Arkham Asylum
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: RossRoy on November 18, 2011, 11:12:03 PM
Get Skyrim. ;)
Joking aside, I know the feeling... but still :hysterical:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Achim on November 19, 2011, 02:04:19 AM
I am very sorry to hear that, that must be very disappointing.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 26, 2011, 11:18:27 PM
What ?? ?? ?? ??
Pre-Download ? You really really have it on your hard disk but you can't play ?
:o
Even women can't be such a tease !!!
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:tomato:
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Najemikon on November 27, 2011, 01:57:53 AM
:laugh: Sort of... except, if I remember correctly, it doesn't install, so you it won't tease you with a menu or anything. It downloads the raw data into the Steam folder and runs setup when it can be unlocked.
Title: Re: XBOX 4Gb vs PS3
Post by: Eric on November 27, 2011, 02:12:39 AM
Jokes aside, it's a nice feature, I kinda like it actually. When I return from New York in 2 weeks I won't have to wait 3 hours for the download to complete. I'll just need to install it and start playing.