Castle - Spoiler

[Piffi]

Well, i'll keep it in mind and check it out in the summer time if i remember it.

[Dragonfire]

Ok.

I started watching my Castle DVDs again.  I'm into season 2 already.

Oh...since the finale aired, when I caught reruns on TNT, I have been trying to spot the elephants on her desk.  I spotted elephants in a few season 1 episodes.  They are different elephants from the ones that were so important, but there are still elephants there. 

[Piffi]

Yeah, me too! I've started rewatching the series. Yesterday i was in the middle of S03. But when i come to S04, there will be a few episodes i'll skip. Like the episodes after Rick found about Kate knowing etc. Didnt like those. But in S03 Kate was with Josh, but you could see how in love she was allready there (with Rick)  And for the elephants, havent them always been there? They sure are in S03 -

[Dragonfire]

I'm almost to the middle of season 2.  I'll watch more tonight.  
Oh I understand.  I started to see 47 Seconds on TNT in rerun like a week ago or so - that's the episode when Rick finds out she remembers.  I changed the channel..and I did not watch The Limey.  Last time I watched the DVDs, I fast forwarded through those episodes...watched a few bits here and there, but a lot of fast forward, especially with The Limey.  And even Headhunters.  Even though it was awesome to see Fillion and Adam Baldwin together again, I don't like how Rick and Kate were acting toward each other in most of that episode.  When I watched my season 5 DVD set, I didn't watch The Squab and the Whale ..not even on fast forward. 

I don't know if the elephants have always been there.  I really didn't notice them before now in earlier seasons.  The ones I'm seeing so far are not the ones in Veritas...or that Rick said he didn't like earlier in the season - when she wanted to move Linus out of the bedroom.  These were individual ones of a few different sizes.  They may move around her desk a little.  But I have spotted at least a little of them in several episodes now.  Parts of the trunks..or the elephants in the background sort of fuzzy.  I think the earliest that I saw them were in episode 5 - it was just a bit of a trunk.  I actually read some stuff recently about the elephants.  Evidently the original ones were stolen..or at least several of them were.  It might have been during season 2...can't remember the time and such now.  Then some different ones started to show up...and the ones from Veritas.

[Piffi]

Hehe, well.. I'm on S04 so far. And i'm kinda liking what i'm seeing so far. And from S04E01 you see that Rick and Kate are together but they just dont know it them self yet. But there will be a few episodes in this season i wont watch again. '47 Seconds' is one of them. Didnt like that at all.

[Dragonfire]

I'm up to season 3..  watching 3XK again now actually.  And I just saw one of her elephants.     I seem to be a bit obsessed with spotting them now. 

Yup..that is true.  They are pretty well committed to each other at that point even though they don't really do anything about it at that point.  Well....unless you count Kate going to therapy to work through stuff. 
Oh I understand.  There are episodes I won't watch again either...at least not fully.  I might...and I stress might...watch a few scenes in a couple and then fast forward through the majority.  I'll see.

[Piffi]

So, i just watched the first new episode of Rizzoli & Isles. And it was actually quite allright with a interesting ending. But over to Castle. I've heard some rumors (or its not rumors anymore) and that is that Andrew will step down as the showrunner. And David Amman is taking over. He wont quit the show, but ABC wants him (Andrew) on other projects aswell. And that will make for a real interesting 7 IMHO!

[Dragonfire]

I saw Rizzoli & Isles too.  Good episode overall. 
[spoiler]I do kind of have a bad feeling about Jane being pregnant though.  Just that they are setting it up for her to have a miscarriage.. some killer attacks her again or she gets thrown down stairs or..well...anything.  Kind of hard to believe that they would make one of the main characters a single mother. [/spoiler]

I read that about Marlowe too.  I think it have been confirmed.  I did see something where Marlowe talked a little about the decision.  That he isn't leaving, just giving the one guy - who has been with the show for a while - more responsibility.  I'm not sure what I think yet.  With Marlowe ...stepping back a bit, it does make me wonder if we are going to get to the stuff he's been promising.  And with the way season 6 ended..I guess now I'm just a bit wary about what might happen. and yes, I'm more worried now that things with Rick and Kate are gonna get screwed up.  I'm trying not to, but with him stepping back a bit..  Well.  I'm a bit concerned. 

[Piffi]

Well, first of all. Rizzoli & Isles.. (since i didnt find anything about Rizzoli & Isles anywhere) i write it here. I really like R&I. Shaping up to be a real good show. And i liked the cast overall.[spoiler] But espacially the two leads ofc. But it was a shame and just tragic that the one guy killed himself. :\ But when they decided to go with that ended in the first episode i think they will honor him in so way in the next episodes. And for Jane to be pregnant. I agree with you on that. Something will happen, and she loses the baby. Just for the drama of it. But Maura (that is her bestfriend) shouldnt kiss & tell. When Jane told her that secret, she should keep her mouth shut. But i dont know how she will lose it tho. Maby it is like you said, or maby it will have something to do with the whole 'my partner' died etc. I dunno. I'm looking forward to checking the next episode out. But Maura shouldnt betray the trust between the two. Because we know that Jane wont be happy when she finds out that she's been told on.
Anyways, great show so far.[/spoiler]


And now over to Castle. I'm not as worried as you. Not yet atleast, i will give it a chance to see how he will do. Because i've heard some rumors about the new guy, and that he's behind "alot" of stuff we've seen so far in S06. But anyways it will be Andrew's show. And if he sees something he doesnt like i  think he will have something to say about the matter tho. Even tho he will be on other project, i think he will be in the background somewhat. But he (Andrew) and Nathan have said something about Castle would perfect for a 8 season run. So that means 2 more seasons. And thats a decent run for a show anywhere. And we also know that Andrew have said alot of times "he got atleast a few more seasons of story to tell" so i both hope and think we will get atleast a S08. But i also think that a S08 might be the last of the show. And i think Andrew would say "enough is enough" if he saw the show was getting worse. Like bones. But we'll see what happens in S07! That will be so great (hopefully) for so many different things.

[Dragonfire]

We could probably start a thread for Rizzoli & Isles.  I have watched it pretty much from the start.  I've missed some episodes here and there, but overall, I've seen most of it.  I do like the cast too.
[spoiler]It is really sad that the one actor killed himself last year.  I think they handled it well in the last episode - and with the way the character died.  Yes they could have gone and said he moved away..went to Japan or wherever it was with that woman he was dating, but, even though it is very sad, this way gave the show a way of giving him a better send off..that allowed for everyone being sad.  I did watch the episode last night.  It was very well done.  Very touching.  It really seemed to me at times that the cast wasn't acting in some scenes - especially Angie Harmon.  I also have the feeling that some of what was said about the character was really applying to the real guy.  There were some pictures that did seem like they might have been from between takes or something.  The final bit with Jane was heartbreaking.

I saw the little preview for the next episode too.  Something happens during a case that seems to be putting the baby in danger.  And frankly, Jane is shown doing something rather stupid for a pregnant woman.  So we may be into the miscarriage drama next episode.  Not that I want that to happen or anything.  I just have a really, really bad feeling that that is the way this story is going.  If it does happen, then I wouldn't be surprised if they have Jane struggling with it afterward...trying to bottle up her emotions for that too before another break down or something.  [/spoiler]

Well, first of all. Rizzoli & Isles.. (since i didnt find anything about Rizzoli & Isles anywhere) i write it here. I really like R&I. Shaping up to be a real good show. And i liked the cast overall.[spoiler] But espacially the two leads ofc. But it was a shame and just tragic that the one guy killed himself. :\ But when they decided to go with that ended in the first episode i think they will honor him in so way in the next episodes. And for Jane to be pregnant. I agree with you on that. Something will happen, and she loses the baby. Just for the drama of it. But Maura (that is her bestfriend) shouldnt kiss & tell. When Jane told her that secret, she should keep her mouth shut. But i dont know how she will lose it tho. Maby it is like you said, or maby it will have something to do with the whole 'my partner' died etc. I dunno. I'm looking forward to checking the next episode out. But Maura shouldnt betray the trust between the two. Because we know that Jane wont be happy when she finds out that she's been told on.
Anyways, great show so far.[/spoiler]


And now over to Castle. I'm not as worried as you. Not yet atleast, i will give it a chance to see how he will do. Because i've heard some rumors about the new guy, and that he's behind "alot" of stuff we've seen so far in S06. But anyways it will be Andrew's show. And if he sees something he doesnt like i  think he will have something to say about the matter tho. Even tho he will be on other project, i think he will be in the background somewhat. But he (Andrew) and Nathan have said something about Castle would perfect for a 8 season run. So that means 2 more seasons. And thats a decent run for a show anywhere. And we also know that Andrew have said alot of times "he got atleast a few more seasons of story to tell" so i both hope and think we will get atleast a S08. But i also think that a S08 might be the last of the show. And i think Andrew would say "enough is enough" if he saw the show was getting worse. Like bones. But we'll see what happens in S07! That will be so great (hopefully) for so many different things.

Oh I will still be watching too.  If the new guy has been behind a lot of the good stuff in season 6, then that's very, very good.  I hadn't heard that.  I just heard that he has been with the show for a while.  And that Marlowe would still be around and involved a bit...he'd speak up if he thought something was wrong and all that.  I'm not super worried really...but there is a bit there.  If stuff gets back on track pretty quick at the beginning of season 7, then it will lessen..if ....the mess is dragged out, then my ...concern...worry....fear...whatever - will grow. 

[spoiler]I saw someone saying more than once over at the Castle board that they want everyone thinking Rick is dead for at least the first episode.  Talking about wanting to see Stana express that type of emotion...stuff like that.  I don't want to see that at all.  I will be a bit ticked off if they go and make everyone think he is dead for ...well...pretty much longer than a minute.  I think that would be just a bit....well....mean..and downright cruel to Kate.  She's been through enough.  She shouldn't have to think that the love of her life is dead for any length of time.  And yes I know Kate isn't a real person.   [/spoiler]

[Piffi]

Yes, let us start a own spoiler thread for Rizzoli & Isles please! Would be much easier.. Thanks!
[spoiler]And for the dude who commited suicide. Shame and tragic really. I guess its no light in the tunnel etc. But over to the show, and i really liked how they "honored" him. Nice touch. And as you, i think maby some of it wasnt scripted and maby personal espacially from Angie. Sad really. And for her (Jane) being pregnant. I dont think that will last unfortunatly. (well, it never does.) but i dont think she will have the baby. Something will happen with her. I'm not sure if that will be something happening to her, like she's getting beat up. Something happening on a case with a criminal. Or if the whole thing with (forgot his name right now) died. And something happens there. But they are playing it up to be a bit too obvious to me. So i think they will do something. Just for the drama of it. I guess we'll just have to see and find out. I would really surpised if she gets the baby tho. If they continue like this, i think it will be a great season. But when is she going to tell the rest of the family that she is pregant? She is a very fit women. So they will notice it real easy when she is starting to grow Looking forward to the next episode tho. After the whole funural and stuff is over. And to see how it will efect them in the everyday life. [/spoiler]






And over to Castle.. Good news for us/you. Even tho with a new "boss" in place, they wont change the storylines too much. They will continue as they have. And thats good. [spoiler]And i think Andrew wouldnt have it any other way tho. Its still HIS show, even tho he isnt the showrunner anymore. Will be interesting anyways. But for Rick being dead, hurt, or kidnapped. Or just gone for a good 24h, to see Stana acts. To see how brilliant she is. I'm all for it think. She is an amazing actress, and it would love to see her get the one real big shot. We all know that Rick isnt dead. He got a contract with Castle (the show) trough S07. So does Stana. I would love to see Stana knock it out of the park. Not just come to the car crash, and there he is. I want her to "work for it" before she finds him. Think that will make for some real good acting, and some good tv. And think how she\he will react when they finally find him. Will be great! IMHO [/spoiler]

[Dragonfire]

[spoiler]I really don't want to see everyone thinking that Rick is dead.  I don't enjoy seeing characters that I like and am this invested in emotionally devastated like that.  That isn't something I want to see happen and if it does, I will more than likely not like the episode - or episodes depending on how long they drag it out.  Stana is brilliant without Kate having to be emotionally devastated by thinking that the man she loves has been killed when they were like 20 minutes away from being married.  That is just too much as far as I am concerned.  And it smacks too much of writers just trying to delay a wedding.  So no, I don't want to see anything like that.  [/spoiler]

[Piffi]

[spoiler]Haha, you are just upset because they didnt get married! Your stuck on that huh? hehe, but dont worry. They will be married before the show is over! And when they does, i think you will be happy about how they did it. But over to Rick crashing or whatever he did. I disagree with you actually. I'll be 100% honest with you right now.. When S07 starts up again, and we know it will start from where we left Kate before it ended. She crying over the wreck. And if Rick is there, hurt or not hurt, i will be a bit dissapointed to be honest. I'm not saying that i would like Kate & Co to think Rick is dead. But maby kidnapped. I dont want him to be there in the opening segment of S07. I want them to use some of EP01 to find him. OR if he is there, i want him to hurt. Because why go that route if something wont happen? I mean. Its a perfect way to setup some new villians. (And we know there will be a whole new story with some new villians) because of that crash. I want to see Stana act. Just not reading lines, and kisses. (i want to see more of her. Not only the things she does on autopilot) But i would really like to see some raw emotions from her. And this is the perfect moment to just do that! And with what we've seen, she is just amazing. AMAZING. And i kinda hope we see her searching for Rick. Because we havent seen that yet. And how will she react when "her rock" is gone. When she's been in a bad place, she's been using him for support. Who will she go to now? And why will someone do something to Rick? Well,  will be a interesting S07 i think.[/spoiler]

[Dragonfire]

[spoiler]Yes I am upset about that.  I do believe I said that the night of the finale.  :p  It is just the way it was set up...for them to be so freaking close to the wedding, and then that happens.  After they spent the season having them talk about the wedding here and there at different times...building up toward that, and then nothing.  And, honestly, it is too much like the crap they pull on soap operas.  Castle is better than that.  Especially since there is no way in hell that he could be dead.  It is just aggravating. 

As to you asking why bother if Rick is there right away and not hurt when the next season begins... because for whatever stupid reason, it was decided that a dumb cliffhanger was needed - and trying to make it out that Rick is dead is just dumb.  They could still set up whatever new bad person if he isn't hurt.. it seems like someone was trying to hurt him when that suv came up on him.  Ohh..that reminds me of something else.  Yes it is minor..but ..another little...irritation.  Rick was driving a Mercedes that could have easily gotten away from that big lumbering suv.  At a certain point, he had to realize something fishy was going on..and at that point, he should have been able to get away.  Unless he was a absolutely horrible driver.  Anyway.   Yes I still have issues with the that dumbass ending.  And I still have not rewatched that episode again yet.  I have watched just about every other episode of the season at least twice, some more.  For the one other I didn't watch again, it was just because work was so busy that I didn't get the chance to before I lost my DVR.   [/spoiler]

[Piffi]

[spoiler]Well, its quite obvious me and you wont agree on the whole wedding deal. And thats totally fine with me but as i said long before the seasonfinale. I didnt think there would be a wedding. It was just too obvious that something would happen. And something happend. And we dont have to like how it happend or anything. But if Rick would be allright, and come up behind her at the crash, why would the badguys take all the trouble to remove Rick from the burning car? Why would they even crash the car in the first place? That doesnt make sence to me tho. For me i dont see why they would mess with so many of the fans if he would just come back behind her. Not at the wedding, when so many shippers wanted the wedding. I think this will be something in a bigger picture maby troughout the S07. But i'll guess we'll just have to wait and see. I just rewatched the episode and whats more annyoing to me is how Kate acted in the episode. With "i didnt know it was legal" and all that crap. Thats just lazy and bad writing IMHO. But i'm almost 100% sure that the crash was a real good reason. (i know you wont agree with anyless or anymore) Andrew & Co usually have a good reason for what he does. And he gives us a good payoff for the wait aswell. And i'm pretty sure he will this time around aswell. Even tho he isnt the showrunner anymore, they will continue the path they are going on. Have some faith Will be awesome! [/spoiler]